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Wyvern

Wyvern

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Yesterday I was bored out of my skull in the job. My co-worker is on vacation so I can play as much metal as I like in the office at any given level :rock:

So there I was having a cold lunch and playing games in the computer while listening to Iron Maiden. Suddenly I realize I'm not concentrating much on the game and I'm shaking to the rythm of 'Back In The Village' and then a revelation...

THE ALBUM IS 20 YEARS OLD!

The album is as old as Igor :wave: I clearly remember a highschool friend brought it imported from US (it was hell to pay to get fresh stuff on those days living in here), while I was still living in my old address (so I was at early first year college cause I moved to my actual home by second year). Some friends came along and we play it on my sound system. There we were in awe listening to it like...FUCKING A! (the tape was subsequently lent to one of the other guys and destroyed in the process.*)

Now as I listening to something older (Thin Lizzy - "Chinatown") I wonder what are we going to praise 20 years from now? Is music of today going to impact us the same way the music of our youth did (this goes mostly to the old gang :grin: )?



*Note:
  • never lend original stuff to fiends
  • make copies free of charge
  • NEVER buy tapes
 
Wyvern said:
Now as I listening to something older (Thin Lizzy - "Chinatown") I wonder what are we going to praise 20 years from now? Is music of today going to impact us the same way the music of our youth did (this goes mostly to the old gang :grin: )?
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I think I will. In 20 years I still be listning to CoB, Symphony X and Nevermore. Its a mindset really, you have to evolve with the time. Try anything trown at you. I know people that are my age that complain there no good music being made anymore. They still live in the 70s!

Hearing that bullshit makes me angry! If you want to decide to live in the past go ahead but don't complain! Yea it takes time and effort to stay informed but it is worth every second!


See you in 20 years buddy. I hope in 20 years I still be here talking to my old school friends :wave: You guys and girls rule!
 
I don't hear any music today that I think will stand the test of time for me as well as the old stuff from the 80's has. I still check out new bands and do find some that I like but the music from my youth (late 70's, 80's and early 90's) is still my favorite. I'll never stop looking for new music but I just don't get as excited about it anymore. If I'm lucky maybe 4 or 5 albums a year really turn me on, which ain't bad I guess.
 
I'm with Greeno 100%. Don't see us bad Hawk, we are not diminishing new stuff. We are just old birds that got their wings in the 80's and flying in the 21st century have a different air. The airs in Hollands are probably nicer beacuse of altitude so you find the new stuff more exciting than we do ;)

Until 2024 (let's see how many VH reunions are in the meantime
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The greatest times, I've ever known
They're locked inside o' me and carved out of stone
 
In my view, there are plenty of great, post-80s bands that are timeless. The only difference is that I discovered the Maidens, Priests & Zeppelins of the world in my early teens. At this stage of my life (early 30s), I feel highly nostalgic about everything from that era of my life (we always tend to remember the good memories as opposed to the bad).


Perhaps, in another 15 years, I'll look back on the early 00s and think "my godlessness, how awesome was the metal movement of that era"!


GREAT new bands (post 80s) that are already approaching timelessness:
Opeth
My Dying Bride
Anathema
Gathering
In the Woods
Emperor
Porcupine Tree
Ayreon
 
Well I suppose I'm a young'un, but I can't see any bands nowadays that I could positively say I'll be listening to in 20 years time.

I guess it just isn't made like it used to be! :( Maiden, Priest, various thrash bands...I don't see today's worthy equivalent!

Not that there's any reason why the music from 20 years ago wont still be around though, we'd just be saying..."wow, Powerslave is 40 years old, and it hasn't aged a day!". Long live Maiden.

P.S. Hi Hawk!
 
Yeah, if I am still around in 20 years I can definitely see myself looking back on certain modern day albums and having the nostalgia ring true.

Like many of you mentioned, the best part of listening to a 20-year-old album is the memories that are attached to it. I still remember where I was when I first heard, Sabbath, Maiden, Priest, B.O.C., Savatage, Fates Warning, Queensryche, etc. I still remember who I was with. Those are fond memories of a carefree happy time of my life. Not only do I get great music when listening to these classic gems, I get treasured memories as well.

I don't expect to have AS MANY 20th Anniversary nostalgia trips in 2025 as I do now, but that's only because I live a much more responsible life now -- the days of the endless parties and road trips are over. Most of the time, when I hear a new band, I'm all alone at my computer and that's not a memory that's gonna stick in my mind. But I do travel every summer and see old friends, so I am creating new memories with the new bands that will ring nostalgic in 20 years.

When I listen to Tad Morose or Therion, it reminds me of the summer in my home state of Montana when I first bought those albums. When I close my eyes and listen to Matters of the Dark or Secret of the Runes, I see mountains and trees and deer!

When I listen to Ayreon - The Human Equation I'll always think of my friend John back in Montana. We were jamming to Loser and I started doing a irish jig during the celtic riffs in that song. John looked at me and said, "Ryan, I've known you five years and I think that's the first time I ever saw you dance." I looked at him and said, "Yeah, all it took was metal cool enough to include an oboe!"

When I listen to Orphand Land - Mabool, I think of my best friend Lorenzo and our camping trip last summer. High in the mountains of Idaho, a herd of over 80 elk in the field nearby, and a gurling stream that you could only hear when you were changing discs...ah, what wonderful memories!

I did note some irony in the looking back, though. The new bands I am making new memories with...they all have very strong 70s and 80s influences. They've just become more creative with the symphonic and folk influences (which I LOVE). And then there are those bands who are ALL 80s all the way: Astral Doors, Cage, Mob Rules, Tad Morose, and Lefay, come to mind immediately. They kick ass just as much, if not more, than their 80s counterparts.

I reckon if I live another 20 years and haven't gone deaf I'll still be listening to music with strong 70s and 80s roots; that's when metal still had melody, great singers and awesome guitar solos. It wasn't all about angst and anger (nothing wrong with angst and anger per se, but should be used in moderation as with all things).

~the more things change, the more they stay the same~
 
Trans-Siberian Outcast said:
When I listen to Therion, When I listen to Ayreon - The Human Equation...
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The Human Equation is the best record I've heard in over a decade. Amazing album! I've also picked up "Electric Castle" and "Universal Migrator" and am totally blown away by them! I've just ordered Star One! I cant wait!

As for Therion, I love "Vovin" and really like "Theli", but everything after seems a bit dull & suffers from that "been there, done that" vibe.
 
SoundMaster said:
The Human Equation is the best record I've heard in over a decade. Amazing album! I've also picked up "Electric Castle" and "Universal Migrator" and am totally blown away by them! I've just ordered Star One! I cant wait!

As for Therion, I love "Vovin" and really like "Theli", but everything after seems a bit dull & suffers from that "been there, done that" vibe.
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Saw you over at the Ayreon boards, SoundMaster. Fancy meeting you here! Human Equation will definitely land in my top 5 albums of all time. If you dig Electric Castle, get the Final Experiment...same vein, just as great.

On Therion, you're missing what I'm hearing. I see Secret of the Runes as an epic encore of the best symphonic/metal influences from their albums Vovin through Deggial. With SotR they finally dropped their death metal influences and went totally symphonic. For that reason alone, because it was so daring, it still is my fav Therion. Plus the operatic vocals are amazingly mixed and the production will vibrate your testicles if you have a good sub-woofer.
 
I have a problem with people knocking new bands (not NU, people).
I can't satnd listening to the same old stuff over & over. It's choice stuff, but c'mon
I don't ever find myself "wanting" to listen to Maiden. Even the classic stuff, it's
a rare instance where that happens. I'm burnt out on them & Metallica's classics.
Great records though.
I like to check out new bands & there are some great ones out there...
 
sixxswine said:
Dime on the other hand will have the same impact that Rhoads has had some of today's guitarists...
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Not to be a dick or anything, because what happened to him is awful and he sounds like he was a very cool guy, but as for him being mentioned in the same sentence as Rhoads... I just don't get it. His playing never impressed me much. I think he will be remembered more so for the way he died than his playing.

Not trying to stir the shit here.... but I honestly don't see him as a "guitar god". However from what I've read I would have liked to drank a beer or 2 with the man, sounded like a great dude.
 
Greeno said:
Not to be a dick or anything, because what happened to him is awful and he sounds like he was a very cool guy, but as for him being mentioned in the same sentence as Rhoads... I just don't get it. His playing never impressed me much. I think he will be remembered more so for the way he died than his playing.

Not trying to stir the shit here.... but I honestly don't see him as a "guitar god". However from what I've read I would have liked to drank a beer or 2 with the man, sounded like a great dude.
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lol Nobody ever agrees with me ..... I love Dimes Playing and I do believe he was and is Influencial on an entire Generation ..... this will get me Banished /... but Dime was a far better Guitarist than Rhoads.... but not better than Criss Oliva no one can touch him!
 
Randy was overrated. Dime has this underground following. He got some mad riffs & sounds. I suppose you could make the arguement that they aren't in the same league.
That might be right, because Rhoads played it safe & played stuff that would have been considered elevator music compared to Dime! When the seond coming of Thrash & Speed Metal comes around Dime will be mentioned with all the greats of the genre...
 
sixxswine said:
the seond coming of Thrash & Speed Metal comes around Dime will be mentioned with all the greats of the genre...
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Don't want to start an argument with you Sixxi, but second coming...humbug. Is all mallcore/groove if is based on Pantera. All new bands of thrash/speed are still based on the old masters or is not true metal IMO.

I won't talk about Darrel abbilities because is not for me to say so, I believe there are more qualified people for that. But as a simple listener I just can't stand Pantera, their music and (bad) influence.

If you feel offended for my statement I apologize from now. If suits you please let's take this into PM. Let's not start 2005 on a low note.

Take care mate :wave:
 
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