Punk

[The Ozzman]

I wasn't being serious

 

[Alter]

Pop punk actually. Their early stuff is actually not bad.

That is a negative.

 

[chuj666]

I thought this was funny


http://www.buzznet.com/web/music/journals/entry/1815721/fist-fights-feces/?t=home|hero|fistfightsandfeces

Fists and Feces Baby

 

[The Ozzman]

That is a negative.

Why do you always do this?

 

[Alter]

Why do you always do this?

That is the first time I have used that phrase. I should use it more.

But if you are talking about Green Day, they are not pop-punk. Listen to Leftover Crack and than listen to early Green Day. Huge differences in sound. Green Day are just an another alternative rock band.

 

[The Ozzman]

Early Green Day was punk

 

[Vimana]

Really that list only superficially scratches the surface of "punk". In its roughly 30 year history punk has become probably the most diverse and complicated sub-genre of rock(if not music period). From those earliest examples of proto punk have spread some drastically divergent branches, creating sub-genres within sub-genres within sub-genres. But there almost always remains a certain continuity in style, influence, history, and fan base allowing all these bands to own some rights to the 'punk' label.

I simply can't take seriously the musical opinions of anybody that outright dismisses punk as a whole. That sort of attitude can only come out of pure ignorance of a huge chunk of rock music of the past few decades.

Really? The only subgenres of Punk I know of are Hardcore Punk, Gothic Punk, Gothic Pop-Punk, Pop-Punk, and Emo.

 

[The Ozzman]

Crust Punk

 

[Alter]

Really? The only subgenres of Punk I know of are Hardcore Punk, Gothic Punk, Gothic Pop-Punk, Pop-Punk, and Emo.

Add Post-Punk.

Some of the best modern bands are post-punk.

 

[ramses]

Remember...punk came about to piss the status quo off, and to put a fist in the face of (to them)bands they thought to be overblown, and pretentious. Some of the bands that are mentioned are truly and purposely catchy. Why do you think this form of music was called punk in the first place? The title was given to those bands, based on their(critics, older bands) reaction upon hearing, and seeing these groups.

 

[vixTRON]

Really? The only subgenres of Punk I know of are Hardcore Punk, Gothic Punk, Gothic Pop-Punk, Pop-Punk, and Emo.

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Street Punk
Oi! Punk
d-beat/Crust Punk
Psychobilly
Horror Punk
Powerviolence
Ska Punk
Melodic Punk
art-punk/post punk
New Wave
Hardcore Emo/Emo Hardcore
Scremo
Fastcore/Thrashcore
SkatePunk
Riot Grrrl
Anarcho-punk
Grindcore(a genre which has always had one foot in the punk scene and the other in the metal scene)
Roots Punk/Ethnic Punk/Folk Punk

etc.

 

[challenge_everything]

Huge List. Best Bands Bolded

Here we go.........

Early Punk (pre-1985)
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Proto Punk:

The Who(sort of)
The Stooges(Iggy Pop)
The Velvet Underground
The New York Dolls

Punk Rock:
Sex Pistols
Ramones
The Damned
The Clash

Classic American Hardcore:

7 Seconds
Agent Orange
Agnostic Front
Angry Samoans
Articles of Faith
Bad Brains
Battalion Of Saints
Black Flag
Dead Kennedys
Descendants(early)
DRI
Gang Green
Husker Du
MDC
Minor Threat
Misfits
Negative Approach
Reagan Youth
Scream
Suicidal Tendencies(first Album)
Turning Point
Violent Fems(seriously)

English Anarcho Punk

Crass
Conflict
Sub Hum Ans
Icons of Filth
Rudimentary Peni
Flux Of Pink Indians
The Mob
Zounds

English Hardcore:

Amebix
Discharge
GBH
The Exploited
Anti-Nowhere League
UK Subs

Oi!/Street Punk:
4 Skins
Business
Blitz
Sham69
Cock Sparrer
Peter and the Test Tube Babies

Other Miscellaneous Old-school Punk Related Bands:

Wire
Talking Heads
Television
The Pogues
Mission of Burma
Mekons
GG Allin
Gang of Four
The Fall
Einsturzende Neubauten
Devo
The Cramps
The Birthday Party
The Addicts
----------------------
Post 85 Punk

Hardcore/d-beat/sludge/crust/grind/powerviolence/fastcore (basically the harder shit):
Anal Cunt
Assholeparade
Behead the prophet no lord shal live
Benumb
Born Against
Capitalist Casualties
Caustic Christ
Charles Bronson
Crossed Out
Damad
Despise You
Disrupt
Doom
Dropdead
Dystopia
Godstomper
Hatred Surge
Hellnation
His Hero Is Gone
Holy Mountain
Infest
Insult
Iron Lung
Kylesa
Lack of Interest
Left For Dead
Limp Wrist
Look Back And Laugh
Los Crudos
Man Is The Bastard
MK-ultra
Nausea
Pisschrist
Raised Fist
Seein red
Siege
Skitsystem
Spazz
Swallowing Shit
Tragedy
Wolfpack
Yacopsae

Miscellaneous "lighter" post-85 Punk:
A Wilhelm Scream(the only pop worth a damn)
Against Me! (reinventing axel rose was a great album)
Big Black
Bouncing Souls
Choking Victim
Dillinger Four
Dwarves
FYP
Guitar Wolf
Killing Joke
Left Over Crack
The Libertines
The Make-Up
Toys That Kill
Nirvana
Riverboat Gamblers
Swinging Utters
Turbonegro

Proto Emo:
Dag Nasty
Embrace
Rites of Spring
Fugazi
Jawbreaker
Hot Water Music (early)
Falling Forward
Samiam

True Emo:
Gray Matter
Moss Icon
Nation of Ulysses
Indian Summer
Policy of Three
Julia
Native Nod
Beefeater
Maximillian Colby

Hardcore Emo:
Heroin
Swing Kids
Mohinder
Amen Ra
Honeywell
Antioch Arrow
City of Caterpillar
Hassan I Sabbah
Iconoclast
Jeromes Dream
Joshua fit for Battle
Orchid
PG.99
Reversal Of Man
Usurp Synapse
Union of Uranus
Saetia

That is a seriously awesome list, but I take it you're not a fan of So-Cal punk? Bad Religion, Social Distortion, etc?

Good to see some underrated bands which I love on there. Born Against's Rebel Sound of Shit and Failure is fucking brilliant, some of the most viciously cynical lyrics ever. Agent Orange's Living in Darkness is one of the most insanely catchy punk albums ever and is totally unique.

My other favourites:

Dead Kennedys: well, all, but Plastic Surgery Disasters is my favourite
Thought Riot: Shattered Mirror Syndrome: best punk album of the last ten years hands down. Hard, fast, amazing harmonies, heartfelt and anthemic all at the same time, and extremely thought-provoking lyrics.
Rise Against: The Sufferer and the Witness and Revolutions per Minute: one of the few consistently good well-known punk bands around today
Wire: Pink Flag: probably the best album to come out of the first UK wave
The Clash: London Calling: except maybe for this one!
Crass: The Feeding of the 5000: opens with one of the most confronting tracks ever recorded and remains uncompromising all the way through
Turbonegro: Ass Cobra: about the only album that can have you happily singing along, fist in the air, to songs about male ass fucking.
Misfits: everything coz it's just so good
Descendents: Milo Goes to College: up there with the best pop-punk albums, before that genre became associated with shit
Stiff Little Fingers: Inflammable Material: another top class album from the early UK scene.
NoMeansNo: Why Do THey Call Me Mr Happy?: only loosely punk but has great groove to it
Toe to Toe: The Best Defence is Attack: kickass hardcore from Sydney
Bad Religion: Against the Grain: don't need to say anything bout this
AFI: Black Sails in the Sunset: they're shitty now but this was a groundbreaking album. Sing the Sorrow is great too but not really punk.
Husker Du: New Day Rising: Don't like Husker Du's other stuff much but this is a great album
The Proletariat: Voodoo Economics and other American Tragedies: sprawling double album of political punk, gets a bit same-ish but has some great songs
Suicidal Tendencies: Lights, Camera, Revolution: it's not really punk but it's my favourite ST album
Bad Brains: everything
Pennywise: Straight Ahead: fuck you, I like it

 

[Satanstoenail]

My girlfriend just bought Bad Religion - No Control last week and I'm liking it heaps. I'd only really heard their more recent stuff which didn't do much for me at all.

 

[challenge_everything]

Many consider No Control their best but for me it has too much filler. I prefer Against the Grain and Suffer.

Edit: it's still a classic though

 

[challenge_everything]

BTW to the dude with the huge list - I can't believe you rated the Damned as the pick of the original UK bands. They were always really tame and predictable and too clean sounding. Plus it was much more based in old rock n roll like the Who and didn't really create anything that new. 'Neat Neat Neat' and 'New Rose' were cool but I never liked the rest of it.

For that kind of punk, I would rate the Buzzcocks and the Adverts much higher.

 

[vixTRON]

You're right, I was never really into much So-Cal punk(even thou I'm from so-cal).

As to my pick of the Damned, I only really like their first three albums. But I like them a lot. Just never really got into much other early punk rock.

 

[challenge_everything]

You're right, I was never really into much So-Cal punk(even thou I'm from so-cal).

As to my pick of the Damned, I only really like their first three albums. But I like them a lot. Just never really got into much other early punk rock.

Yeah I prefer the US scene as well, but there's still heaps of cool bands from the early UK scene that I would rate much higher than the Damned and the Sex Pistols: Stiff Little Fingers, The Undertones, Wire, The Saints (even though they're Australian)
Angelic Upstarts, Buzzcocks, The Ruts etc