this will be my last post on this thread because all who are a lost cause will remain a lost cause -
so i ask you, how do you define talent?
i know what talent ISNT! talent is not screeching guitars and non-stop blast beats - nor is it indecipherable vocal grunts screams and screeches - or music mixed/produced and mastered so poorly it makes you want to use the disc as a frisbie (tho some have said that of st anger)
real talent is producing something listenable, not musical armageddon -