Rate my (first) Blackmore recording

[MarkG]

Its taken me a good while, but I finally managed to hook everything up and record my ENGL Blackmore. Many thanks to Ola for helping me out with hooking everything up, and Marcus for giving some EQing advise.

http://www.box.net/shared/522enn2l9h

First (single tracked) recording.

my chain:

Schecter C1 Classic with EMG 81/85 into my ENGL Blackmore, into the Mackie onyx. Recorded with Traktion. I loaded the ENGLv30 higher presence impulse with SIR 2.

Blackmore settings (all out of 10):

Channel 3
Lead: 8
Bass: 5
Middle: 6
Treble: 5
Lead volume: 5
Contour: off

Please let me know what you think! Don't like it? Offer some suggestions and I'll do my best to improve the tone.

 

[VINCENT DEATHCULT]

I Like it

 

[Metaltastic]

Now double it and program some drums But yeah, still sounds good to me! (though could perhaps do with less mids, the slight fuzziness might add up with a second track in there) Did you discover whether the presence knob has any effect?

 

[MarkG]

Now double it and program some drums But yeah, still sounds good to me! (though could perhaps do with less mids, the slight fuzziness might add up with a second track in there) Did you discover whether the presence knob has any effect?

Has no effect, its a power amp feature.

If I want to change the presence, I'll either need to use another impulse, or use an EQ plugin to turn the right frequencies down a bit.

I'll work on some new recordings tomorrow...I just got home and its like 2 am, so I'm gonna go to bed

 

[Metaltastic]

Has no effect, its a power amp feature.

If I want to change the presence, I'll either need to use another impulse, or use an EQ plugin to turn the right frequencies down a bit.

Yeah, that's what I figured - and I don't think it needs any changing personally, just curious since you mentioned it among the settings above!

 

[MarkG]

Yeah, that's what I figured - and I don't think it needs any changing personally, just curious since you mentioned it among the settings above!

whoops, I'll take that out.

When I double track I guess I'll turn down the mids to 5, and maybe the gain to 7 instead of 8.

 

[Ola Englund]

Sounding nice bro!

 

[MarkG]

Sounding nice bro!

Fuck this recording was a pain in the ass! Cubase, reaper and traktion are bugging each other so I kept getting CPU spikes.

In any case.... same settings this time double tracked with drums and bass

http://www.box.net/shared/ua1gbizylv

Same, but contour on

http://www.box.net/shared/fhgd9bazjb

Seeing how clean I can get on channel 3 with the gain at 80%
http://www.box.net/shared/ovbt6vsccn

Quad tracked

http://www.box.net/shared/a27884tatn

 

[lolzgreg]

It sounds good, I'd love to hear it in a mix though.

 

[MarkG]

It sounds good, I'd love to hear it in a mix though.

You mean with vocals? Because the first 2 clips and the last one have drums, and a bass guitar.

 

[MarkG]

Different cabinets, combinations, and minor EQing:

ENGLV30 cabinet 100/100
ENGLV30 cabinet 80/80
http://www.box.net/shared/a27884tatn

With a 3db cut at 400hz
http://www.box.net/shared/1yiz4iaukd

ENGL V30 cabinet 100/100
Framus V30 cabinet 80/80
http://www.box.net/shared/7xjri21n7h

Mesa V30 cabinet 100/100
Mesa V30 cabinet 80/80
http://www.box.net/shared/m98siuybn5

Mesa V30 cabinet 100/100
ENGL V30 cabinet 80/80
http://www.box.net/shared/ltrpm2tuq1

ENGL V30 cabinet 100/100
Mesa V30 cabinet 80/80
http://www.box.net/shared/7fpmpmlmaz

With a 3db cut at 400hz
http://www.box.net/shared/7fpmpmlmaz

 

[Djabthrash]

ENGLV30 cabinet 100/100
ENGLV30 cabinet 80/80
http://www.box.net/shared/r34nfjl4r6

That link is broken.

 

[Djabthrash]

They all sound quite good.

I'd go for double-tracked, same settings as you have but less gain (maybe 6 or 5 instead of 8), maybe a tad more treble or a higher presence impulse.
With or without contour, they sound different but both great.

 

[MarkG]

That link is broken.

Fixed the link.

Thanks for your input!

*edit*


New test:

Double Tracked, ENGL +V30 and an OD in front and contour engaged.
http://www.box.net/shared/q55q1hbm0d

*edit april 6th*

Latest but still not so great attempt with new EQing

http://www.box.net/shared/4hkuxco4ma

 

[Djabthrash]

Fixed the link.

Thanks for your input!

*edit*


New test:

Double Tracked, ENGL +V30 and an OD in front and contour engaged.
http://www.box.net/shared/q55q1hbm0d

You're welcome.

The new clip is not bad but you should remove the OD in front IMO.

 

[MarkG]

My latest attempt

http://www.box.net/shared/axcdx2rp22

I don't think I can get it much better with more EQing...but feedback and tips are very welcome. Don't mind the sloppy playing, had to finish it before 20:00

 

[Ola Englund]

haha you named the files after me, I'm honored!

the last one sounds great!

 

[Djabthrash]

My latest attempt

http://www.box.net/shared/axcdx2rp22

I don't think I can get it much better with more EQing...but feedback and tips are very welcome. Don't mind the sloppy playing, had to finish it before 20:00

Sounds great IMO. I'd just use a tad less gain to hear the grit more, and then that would be perfect for me.

 

[MarkG]

haha you named the files after me, I'm honored!

the last one sounds great!

Credit where credit is due If I used your EQ settings, I put it in the name.

For that last clip, I started off with your EQ but I added some low end and lower mids...I thought it sounded a bit better with this song.

Glad you like it though! I'm not 100% happy with it yet, but I think its due to not using an ENGL Savage

Sounds great IMO. I'd just use a tad less gain to hear the grit more, and then that would be perfect for me.

Thanks! I guess I may have gone a bit overboard with the gain (maxed out) trying to go after the saturation in Ola's savage clips. Just not reasonable with a blackmore I guess

*edit*

Found an old preamp out track, this ones a bit tighter played...and I also used less gain so maybe you like this one better djabtrash. This is also with old guitar strings...so it sounds darker.
http://www.box.net/shared/a6g6sgy806

 

[Nukular!]

Great sounding I'd like to hear how a tubescreamer would affect the sound... but apart from that it's a really BIG tone.

I'm pleased you got your onyx and that its working for you