Reverb send on snare and toms

[ArroldW]

I've been reading around the forum and I saw "... sending the snare and toms to a reverb send to make them blend better.." can anyone explain? I mean; I get that you add reverb to the snare and toms to make them fit better in the drum mix but when I think of sending the snare and toms to one track with reverb on it I think of a louder/duller snare and toms in the mix...

 

[ahjteam]

Then you need to dial in a better reverb sound. Also remember to put the mix to 100% wet on the reverb

 

[ArroldW]

okay. so in working on a better reverb sound; which reverb is everyone else using for this? And how loud do you leave the send track in the drum mix.

 

[ahjteam]

Depends what you are after. Plate, hall or room.

 

[ArroldW]

Then you need to dial in a better reverb sound. Also remember to put the mix to 100% wet on the reverb

and thank you for replying

 

[ArroldW]

either plate or room. hall maybe for the HUGE snares for like rock bands would be nice to know how to use.

 

[JeffEstrada]

You have two tracks, Snare track, and reverb track.
Send your snare to this reverb track. Get a nice reverb sound but make sure it's set to 100% wet so that only the wet processed signal is going trough.
Add some Eq on your reverb track, Something like HP@300Hz, LP@6000Hz. You can also add some compression on it.
Bring the volume completely down on your reverb track and slowly bring it up while listening to your whole mix. Blend to taste. Make sure not to make it too loud or it will muddy up the mix.
You should look at the reverb on your snare as something that's there but not something that's popping out at you. So set it lightly.


Hope I answered your question.
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Jeff

 

[JeffEstrada]

either plate or room. hall maybe for the HUGE snares for like rock bands would be nice to know how to use.

Usually something like a dark plate is just fine. You can set the pre-delay of your reverb to about 10 to 12ms.

 

[ArroldW]

You have two tracks, Snare track, and reverb track.
Send your snare to this reverb track. Get a nice reverb sound but make sure it's set to 100% wet so that only the wet processed signal is going trough.
Add some Eq on your reverb track, Something like HP@300Hz, LP@6000Hz. You can also add some compression on it.
Bring the volume completely down on your reverb track and slowly bring it up while listening to your whole mix. Blend to taste. Make sure not to make it too loud or it will muddy up the mix.
You should look at the reverb on your snare as something that's there but not something that's popping out at you. So set it lightly.


Hope I answered your question.
___
Jeff

SWEET. Thank you for the help. one absolutely last question. When sending the snare and toms do I send it post-fader [post pan] or pre-fader [post fx]? ([[I'm a reaper user haha]])

 

[JeffEstrada]

I always leave it as Post-Fader

 

[ArroldW]

Awesome. Thanks for the help _Jeff_ and ahjteam!

 

[joeymusicguy]

for the record, i almost never use fx sends. just plop the reverb right on the track.

 

[K Odell]

Well damn I never expected that.

What about delays and such?

 

[ArroldW]

for the record, i almost never use fx sends. just plop the reverb right on the track.

So add a reverb vst on the snare buss and another on the tom buss at 50% wet?

 

[SawdustRecordings]

So add a reverb vst on the snare buss and another on the tom buss at 50% wet?

It depends what you want to achieve. But 50% is pretty high in most cases. I only use sends if I want to get many Tracks into one effect.

 

[joeymusicguy]

an example... reverb on a vocal... you're gonna want like 1 - 5% wet at the most (depending on the reverb plugin)

 

[joeymusicguy]

Well damn I never expected that.

What about delays and such?

delays would be inserts on tracks as well
there's really no reason to use an fx send unless you need multiple instruments to work on the same reverb setting at once

even then, you can bus those tracks into a common group and throw reverb on the group

 

[JeffEstrada]

If your using reverb and delay as inserts on snares and vocals and things like that, How do you cut out the junk frequencies from the reverb like anything below 300Hz and above 6Khz?

 

[ArroldW]

an example... reverb on a vocal... you're gonna want like 1 - 5% wet at the most (depending on the reverb plugin)

only 1-5%? but your vocals sound so wet and wiiiidddeeee. Maybe that has something to do with the multiple takes. What reverb do you happen to be using?

 

[joeymusicguy]

If your using reverb and delay as inserts on snares and vocals and things like that, How do you cut out the junk frequencies from the reverb like anything below 300Hz and above 6Khz?

the reverb its self usually has settings for this