- joey jordison happens to be an amazing drummer ... he started out as a jazzdrummer btw. but because he plays in bands that aren't consider as highly intellectual music, everyone automatically says he sucks ...
- and idd, the only reason a lot of people say slipknot sucks is because of the image, and because it's not "cool" to say otherwise, and it is also very important then to say that it is your personal oppinion and not because it's not "cool" ... it's all so cliché!!! people come on ...
you can all say what you want, but when you listen to the first recording that slipknot put out (filled with lots of jazz influences back then), and even listen to the other ones, than you can't deny that it was innovative ... and yes, their goal was (and perhaps still is) to gather as much fans as they can, with their second full album, but they have stated that many times. they want to show people that there exists other music than britney spears and stuff! and they hope that a lot of their fans open their mind and go further, go listen to real metal bands ...
slipknot will be first to admit that they are not really metal in the narrow definition ... they only have influences from metal, as they do from other music.
and seriously: stop the cliché arguments and discussions about this music! it's soooooooooo boring and old!