So To The Nameless Dead has leaked

[skyrefuge]

Yeah, Jason's got it. I was looking only at the "experience" of waiting for an album's release date vs. getting it earlier. Since I'm not going to be buying a physical version anyway, waiting for the release date would be silly (well, unless I'm concerned about the RIAA knocking down my door). But yes, the "not wasting my money on crap" part of it is definitely an important advantage.

I probably wouldn't be ok with 128kbps mp3s, but iTunes doesn't sell those. They have 128kbps AACs, which is a fair bit better than mp3 at the same bitrate. Also, they are now selling more stuff in 256kbps AAC format. I'm perfectly fine with 128kbps AAC. Maybe if I did an extensive study, I'd find out that I *can* detect a difference between 128kbps and 192kbps. But c'mon, we're listening to fucking metal here. The encoding format is hardly the limiting factor in the sound quality. It's not like I get pissed off if Primordial's soundstage only feels like it's 10 feet deep instead of 12, or if I can't sense the aged patina of Amon Amarth's guitars through the blasting wall of distortion and drunken roaring.

 

[skyrefuge]

Why not just paypal the band $15 bucks and cut out the middle man?!

Yeah, I've actually done that. I'd do it more if bands were more up-front about suggesting that as a workable option, like Radiohead. Though unlike Radiohead, it would be nice if they suggested a price along with providing a PayPal link. $15 seems like kind of a lot if I'm not getting anything physical, but then what else do I offer? Is $5 insulting, even though it's probably still more than the band sees from a CD sale? $10? $1 for each point I give the album on a 10 point scale?

Another issue is that there *are* other people in the chain besides the band who probably deserve to get some money for what they're doing (like, the label). So it doesn't seem totally fair to cut these people out. Even with just the band itself, how do I know that the drummer isn't just keeping all the money for himself because he's the only one who knows how to use the Internet? Also, I feel that the legal issues are taken care of if I do it through "official" channels (and yeah, I know that's stupid since the whole thing is "illegal" anyway).

Neil

 

[skyrefuge]

skyrefuge - do you download 256K or 192K MP3s, decide to buy the "official" MP3s via iTunes and then delete your higher quality MP3s to replace with crappy 128K MP3s?

I do generally replace the mp3s with the iTunes AACs, but I throw the mp3s into a "backup" folder, in case something is fucked up with the iTunes rip, or if the wax suddenly comes out of my ears and I can detect a difference. But so far, that hasn't happened. And since I only have a 1GB iPod, it's nice to have the smaller filesizes for that.

Neil

 

[Agalloch]

Remember when this thread was about Primordial?

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

Shuffle is gay 99% of the time.

is your music that shitty?
shuffle is an excellent way to not forget about bands

 

[swizzlenuts]

No, I enjoy listening to albums in their entirety which helps me pick up on the atmosphere. I hate listening one track at a time becuase you can have tons of different moods all put together.

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

No, I enjoy listening to albums in their entirety which helps me pick up on the atmosphere. I hate listening one track at a time becuase you can have tons of different moods all put together.

then shuffle by album with foobar

 

[swizzlenuts]

I've never even thought about shuffling within an album before, I just figure the band put the songs in a certain order for a reason.

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

nono, I meant shuffle by album as in... instead of random tracks, random albums (the whole album). then simply sort your music by genre, hit album shuffle and listen to random black metal albums.

edit: anyway, off to bed

 

[J.]

fuck. just listen to the goddamn CD, not mp3's, on a real stereo, not computer, all the way through to the end, without shuffle. fuck.

 

[General Zod]

http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/index.php

Yep. If you use the DivX player, instead of Windows Media player, most of your issues will vanish.

The best thing that ever came out of that thread for me was the youporn link.

Do people still download porn of the web? What a waste of time.

Zod

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

What you call a waste of time I call a necessary evil.

 

[Krilons Resa]

Well, Ive only listened to it once but I havent been in the mood for this shit lately so I couldnt get into it. I also think the production sucks...dunno wtf you guys are going on about.

 

[WhiteBeastofWotan]

I listened to another track on the album (the second) and it ruled as much as Empire Falls. I dont think Ill listen to anymore till i got the bitch in my hands.

 

[Caelum Adustum]

fuck. just listen to the goddamn CD, not mp3's, on a real stereo, not computer, all the way through the way through to the end, without shuffle. fuck.

.

 

[Krilons Resa]

That mid-part of As Rome Burns reminds me a lot of Tool.

Regarding my last statement, this is prob gonna end up really growing on me.

 

[Demonspell]

Approximately 75% stereo, 25% PC. I've said this every time this issue comes up, but I'm still with everybody who says that listening to the album in its entirety, preferably with the CD close at hand and minimal distractions, is the only way to absorb the music completely. Still no mp3 player, although that may change before the end of the year.

 

[skyrefuge]

on a real stereo, not computer

I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to grasp the concept that these two things are not mutually exclusive, but maybe a picture will help:

And yeah, album-based shuffle is great, and a nice way to listen to stuff you might ignore otherwise. It's like having someone else choose the next album to listen to, except that you can tell them "no, fuck that, choose another one". Track-based shuffle is for morons, except when you're sitting around drinking with friends and playing the "Who Can Name The Song First" game.

And now, to listen to that Primordial album...

Neil

 

[EricT]

Track-based shuffle is for morons, except when you're sitting around drinking with friends and playing the "Who Can Name The Song First" game.

Used to do that all the time. I always won though, so its awesome died down quickly.

 

[Reign in Acai]

fuck. just listen to the goddamn CD, not mp3's, on a real stereo, not computer, all the way through to the end, without shuffle. fuck.

We live in an age where the average person's attention span is literally 3 fucking minutes. I went on a couple dates with this bint a couple years back who could not listen to a song in it's entirety, let alone a whole album. Mind you this was horrendous pop shit that was no more than 2:45 minutes per song. Every one and a half minute, fwd, fwd, fwd, What the fuck?!?! She didn't have much tits, but she was horny. Too bad she didn't even have an attention span for that!


Edit Maximus- Neal, whatever you say you space cowboy. If you're getting a good sound out of that, all the power to ye. The people I had in mind are listening to 128kpbs torrent rips on winamp (it really kicks the llamas ass), on shitty labtec speakers at 10% volume. These shameless fucks own 20% of their collection on hard copy, while leeching the other 80. They're "starving students" so it's o.k Fucking complete bullshit. Not only can these arsethenians not make it through an album to properly digest what the musicians' are attempting to accomplish, but they can't wait the extra two weeks to purchase the release in credible fashion. Now now now, Gimme gimme gimme. I really think that they believe that they're a music industry insider by being able to discuss this music pre-release.