Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
Familia><Publica said:
He's been a troll around here several times before. This isn't an isolated incident.
Some more of my recent mixes... Lilitu
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He's been a troll around here several times before. This isn't an isolated incident.
yeah, and anyway it wasn't all that bad or "bullying" after all, was it..... pretty light-hearted really. he deserved to get some shit for it, but we didn't exactly ostracize him like you're making out... not even nasty at all really. i'm sure he's not very "butt-hurt" over it...
sorceron
ken
Hey James,
it sounds really good! all the instruments are clear and you can pick them out in the mix...
Listening through the songs...the guitars seem to fatigue my ears a little too quickly...maybe they're a little too bright?
the only other thing I noticed is that on the first song..it sounded like everything drops in volume when the vocals come in....(I noticed it most on the outro....)
other than that..sounds pretty good..wish my mixes came close to these..
it sounds really good! all the instruments are clear and you can pick them out in the mix...
Listening through the songs...the guitars seem to fatigue my ears a little too quickly...maybe they're a little too bright?
the only other thing I noticed is that on the first song..it sounded like everything drops in volume when the vocals come in....(I noticed it most on the outro....)
other than that..sounds pretty good..wish my mixes came close to these..
eh, the guitar thing is a matter of taste maybe... not sure what monitors you are listening on, but they don't fatigue my ears, even listening to all 3 tracks top to bottom. just doubled checked the beginning where the vox come in and there's no volume drop at all... the music stops almost completely there.. stop/start kind of part.. but no volume drop at all... you may just be missing the string part that was playing until that point.. it ends right when the vox start. in fact, ther's no volume drop in the music in the outro either... and i've doubled checked with someone else just to confirm.. not that i needed to really. not sure what you're listening through... ah well, glad you like the mixes.. \m/.daemon097 said:Hey James,
it sounds really good! all the instruments are clear and you can pick them out in the mix...
Listening through the songs...the guitars seem to fatigue my ears a little too quickly...maybe they're a little too bright?
the only other thing I noticed is that on the first song..it sounded like everything drops in volume when the vocals come in....(I noticed it most on the outro....)
other than that..sounds pretty good..wish my mixes came close to these..
Impy
Impale/Exhale
Sounds great, alltho personally i don't like the snare, i would've liked to see a brighter more attacky one if that makes sense, that's just me tho.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Hey James,
I'm using Mackie HR824's.
as for the guitars...I remember that was a discussion some time ago...(regarding brightness and ear fatigue...) and your right...it could very well be personal taste. I do know I listen to tons of metal...and in comparison to say......Nevermore's latest and these mixes...and - you know..it doesn't seem like Nevermore's stuff is that much darker sounding...but, after listening to 3-4 of those songs, I don't have that same sort of ear fatigue.
...I also tried comparing it to the new Fear Factory, Gizmachi's latest, the new Arch Enemy, and the new COC...Fear Factory & Arch Enemy were maybe closer to your mixes, although..they still seem softer on the ears...
anyways..just an opinion..
as for the vocals dropping....I do hear it.... maybe it's in my head..
I'm using Mackie HR824's.
as for the guitars...I remember that was a discussion some time ago...(regarding brightness and ear fatigue...) and your right...it could very well be personal taste. I do know I listen to tons of metal...and in comparison to say......Nevermore's latest and these mixes...and - you know..it doesn't seem like Nevermore's stuff is that much darker sounding...but, after listening to 3-4 of those songs, I don't have that same sort of ear fatigue.
...I also tried comparing it to the new Fear Factory, Gizmachi's latest, the new Arch Enemy, and the new COC...Fear Factory & Arch Enemy were maybe closer to your mixes, although..they still seem softer on the ears...
anyways..just an opinion..
as for the vocals dropping....I do hear it.... maybe it's in my head..
well, nevermore's tuned quite a bit lower than these guys.. not sure about all your other examples as far as where they tune.. anyway, part of what you hear is playing style... these guys "strum" a lot more.. but yeah... i think it's where it needs to be for this production.. i was never trying to copy any other specific bands, so i'm fine with not sounding like them. i've had my ears checked recently and they are in great shape.. no notches of any significance that would account for me not being fatiqued by those guitars... i'm just not.daemon097 said:
i've checked with quite a few people on this now.. not that i needed to, as i said before, ... even a few from this forum in fact.. they aren't hearing it either... go figure.daemon097 said:as for the vocals dropping....I do hear it.... maybe it's in my head..
i am most happy with the snare in this production.. it needs the "weight" it has to cut right.... i won't be changing that, of all things, if i remix this stuff. it cuts great.. no need for more high end ("attack")... now that would fatique my ears.Impy said:
Razorjack
Bass Behemoth
James Murphy said:
I'm glad you like the snare sound on this, it's the thing I think that puts all your mixes apart from others out there. I just love the (as you put it) weight in the snare, a totally different sound from the tinny almost piccolo snares I'm used to hearing in metal productions.
Impy
Impale/Exhale
James Murphy said:
It's not that it doesn't cut thru or anything, it's just a personal preference, maybe a brighter snare would screw with the mix, maybe not, i just prefer snares with more attack.
well, I wasn't referencing the sound of the other bands' guitar tone....all the bands have their own guitar tone...but, I think it's a particular frequency range that causes the fatigue that I'm experiencing...regardless of what a band tunes to..
but - right on anyways...
...btw - that new COC is the shit...if you guys haven't heard it yet, get it!
but - right on anyways...
...btw - that new COC is the shit...if you guys haven't heard it yet, get it!
lol.. it may not be bright enough for your taste, but there's plenty of "attack". it's there, in spades. i don't mind anyone telling me that they like brighter snares (a too bright snare is anathema to me... the noun, not the band) but don't tell me there's not enough attack in that sound.Impy said:
anyway, i put these mixes up more to expose the bands than to be critiqued. i've been around awhile doing this i'm not looking for advice from you guys per se, though you're welcome to if you want.. just don't get angry if i don't agree ... i'm showcasing the bands really, giving them some exposure to potential new fans, and giving you all a chance to ask me things, like "what i used?" and "how i did this or that?". i'm not really interested in being "tutored" here.. except perhaps by Andy
. you can't blame me, i look to my peer group for things like that, just as everyone else in the world does.this mix has been heard and critiqued by some guys i serioulsy look up to... not one has complained about the attack or frequency content of the snare, and i'm very happy with it. the drummer's snare was deep and sounded like this anyway, so i'm not going to try to alter the physical properties of that nice deep, fat snare drum by eq-ing it to sound like a picollo ... na gan da.
sorceron
ken
i think the snare is one of the highlights of the mix if you ask me. i like a deeper snare, sounds bigger on recording for sure. i dont really see the point in critiquing peoples mixes that didnt ask for it... especially when they as well produced as this one, especially keeping the amount of time he had to work with in mind.
yeah.. i hear ya. tuning does have an impact though... but, as i mentioned already, i'm most happy with the snare.. drums in general really, with this mix.... it's definitely a brighter guitar sound than i normally go for, but i do think it's appropriate and not particulary fatiguing. having said that, i would probably change it a bit if i were to remix right now... but wouldn't necessarily make it a lot less "bright".... just perhaps even things out a bit more.daemon097 said:
dabhoys
Member
Lopes
Fuckin' Dr. of Journalism
The only thing that you need to know about Mike Patton is that he kicks ass, anything beyond that is irrelevant.vile_ator said:
kaomao
Member
Impy said:
Me too Impy, a snare with a pronounced attack would be better, but I say again it's just personal taste.
Maurizio
the attack is exremely pronounced..if you can't hear that, go clean the poop outta yer ears.kaomao said:
lol... you want more high end... i don't... i win, and fortunately, so does the band. \m/perhaps you're on about the blasts... yeah, they have much less attack.. just like real life. imagine that.
