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What did you all think of The Force Awakens? Love it? Hate it? Indifferent? Why?
What did you all think of The Force Awakens? Love it? Hate it? Indifferent? Why?
I think you read too fast there CF, your inner-Mort came out. I said nothing about black representation. But you have to find it funny that the studio, with legitimate reasons, put a female and a black male as leads for this new trilogy. Meanwhile women are still represented in the film, blacks and other non-whites are not. It's kind of funny where the PC police find fault and don't. The stormtrooper storyline has more at fault than anything else, it's really weird how they justified his character arc. I wonder if any progressive-ist film critic will see the "re-naming of a black man" the same as the Christian renaming of slaves in early America. That'd be a fun read.
Dude her character is ridiculous. How does she boss that dude around to get the droid in the beginning? She's all alone and somehow has some authority on this planet? Then she knows more about ships than Han Solo, especially his ship, because she scavenged old parts on a destroyer or whatever it's called? It's all this silly techniques to make her seem that she's everything in the film, except in physical load bearing capacity. I find that funny, it's not misogynistic to say "How can this woman know so much about wiring and ships when she's been landlocked on a desert her whole life?" But to you, maybe it is. But you also enjoy the loops in logical thinking, that she was trained to a master Jedi at age 5 at skills of the force and the lightsaber and after ~10-15 years she can retain that skill like riding a bicycle I mean come on man, you don't really believe this do you?
Come on man, Rey clearly won that fight. If the earth didn't split there the whole trilogy would have ended. You can say that he was wounded, but he wasn't showing any signs of it hurting him, instead he kept punching himself to get more amped up or whatever. I think he could have lost an arm and been able to beat Fin and Rey quite easily, but I guess that's ridiculous. You don't find the grandaddy complex hilarious? I've never heard that before. His uncle is the greatest hero in his time period but yet he's drawn more to his evil grandaddy? How many bad ideas did they throw in the trash before they took that one?
Why should Rey be composed? She's a complete novice. And he's taking it easy on her, because he thinks he can convert her (limited direction there and really just threw that at the audience quickly). She becomes composed by this awkward 5s eyes closed thing and then suddenly remastered herself? That was weird as well. I can't think of any signs that Rey was affected about his inadequacy of being Vader except when it was measly brought up by Rey pre fight. I would agree if you said the part where he killed Han but that fight scene? Ehhh He wasn't acting erratic or doing anything that would have shown signs of that.
What did you dislike about the stormtrooper arc?
None of those were issues for me. We only see a slice of her life. There's no reason to assume she's not good at mechanics. She has a cruiser, which presumably she manages.
And yes, that's exactly what I interpreted it as.
That doesn't seem strange at all within the context of the Star Wars universe. Every Jedi is temped by the dark side. The dark side is all about the drive for power and everyone is tempted by that at some point. The fact that your grandpa was one of the most powerful and feared men in the universe for decades would definitely create an allure for a young, powerful, Jedi, especially if he was being seduced by Snokes.
You definitely see it when he kills Han, and throughout his interactions with Rey he seems uneasy and insecure.
Rey is hott
I didn't find it believable that Fin is the first one to ever "break" the mold of the stormtrooper and this is shaken only when a comrade dies? Seemed rushed, premature etc. Why couldn't he have infiltrated the military versus this weird scenario?
Yes, her cruiser is comparable to a ship that goes into space and can travel at the speed of light. I didn't say she is inept at mechanics, but she shouldn't know shit about a ship that goes into space because she works on a land cruiser that's probably super old and terrible. The scene with her and Han wants to demonstrate to the audience that she is gifted and even smarter than Han, which doesn't make sense to me. Unless the force is now similar to the Matrix where all information is just in an iCloud and downloadable to everyone who can use the force.
But the fact that your grandpa was beaten by your uncle takes him down a peg, no!? It's not like Vader died after ruling for 80 years, he was killed! I mean come on, how could that conversation go between Ren and Snoke?
I did get a little emotional for a second when Han died. Part of me was genuinely hoping that he could somehow turn Kylo back.
People ripping on Kylo. I thought he was perfect.
His path to the darkside is now complete