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SyXified said:
I guess it's tough for anyone outside of the home crowd to like a team that goes undefeated, no matter what the circumstances. I remember hating the Chicago Bulls so much during their 6 championship streak, and now in retrospect, whatever, they were a great team.

But keep in mind, the Pats won their first few Superbowls with NO particularly good players. You have to respect the fact that every single player on that team overachieved to make that happen. The Rams had Bruce, Holt, Prohl, and Marshall Faulk. I don't even remember who the Pats were countering with, and I'm an avid fan from Boston. Troy Brown....some other dudes. Brady won 3 Superbowls with no big name players. This year he got some talent and they tore everyone apart. Plus, everyone in the world was on the 'Randy Moss is washed up' bandwagon. I personally love seeing the Pats continue to persevere in the face of people doubting them and underestimating them - even through an UNDEFEATED season. The Jacksonville corner saying he wasn't impressed with Brady's performance was the ridiculous cherry on top of a whole season of similar stupidity.

The Pats are awesome because they started doing things teams should have been doing for YEARS. Going for 4th downs beyond less than a yard is the example that stands out most in my mind. Holmgren humiliated himself with a few decisions to punt against Green Bay, decisions that would be conservative to say the least, and stupid to speak frankly. There have been so many times this season that I would say about another team playing the Pats in a tight game that if they had any balls they would go for a TD rather than a field goal, or something of the like, because you have to let it all hang out against the Pats, but they never did and they all lost.

People who complain about the videotape thing lack perspective. There is not a single person who would, if it were their fav team that did that, be like 'oh man, I'm embarrassed for us, we suck'. For god's sake, its one thing if you find hidden cameras set up on their sideline, this was a guy holding a MONSTER video camera in plain sight. That's so obviously a dumb mistake that the PR guys decided 'whats better here, say we didn't know, have everyone not believe us, look like cheats AND liars... or just take it on the chin?' That was so clearly just a 'thought we were allowed to do this' deal. Its funny to be furious at that and then look at the 50 'official' cameras and the machines printing out still frames every 3 seconds, and the 30 designated radio frequencies.

I would predict the following for the Superbowl:

I think the Giants will come out with a very similar game plan as they did in the last meeting on the idea that the strategy of shutting down Moss with the trade off being freeing up a bit of the short range game was the way to go. They probably are thinking 'if we had executed a few key plays in that game we could have won - lets do the same thing, but execute in those key moments.' Unfortunately for them, I think the Pats figured them out. Eli cannot deal with pressure, he curls up like a pill bug. It'll be a decently good game because 1. Giants Defensive line is absurd 2. Pats have no good answer for Plaxico's speed and height 3. Jacobs is a tank and will make all 3rd and short situations far more likely to be converted for firsts.

That said, Lawrence Maroney will have a solid game and at least match Jacobs in yardage. Welker will be available all day for 10 yard passes. Expect Stallworth to be more of a factor than he has been in many games while the deep coverage leans towards Moss. Expect Moss to catch one huge bomb in a flat out one on one victory. Expect Brady to lead the Pats to victory with a stellar performance.

If Brady did not play, Pats would lose... but he will play and be fine.

Brady will go down as the best QB of all time. It's always easier to look to the past for things like that because you have no chance of being wrong. Half the people who laud Montana, etc, are probably not even that familiar with his career - it's just a well regarded name. Compare Brady's entire career with the same duration of any other quarterback's best years and Brady comes out on top. It'll be many years before people finally realize that, of course, safely in retrospect.
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I don't mean to be an ass... but do all your posts need to be this long? I mean, it's a forum! It is supposed to be more dynamic than that... every time! Just compare the lengh of your replies to the others on the topic.. And that goes for every thread! I don't remember your last post that I read entirely...
 
Angrafan said:
I don't mean to be an ass... but do all your posts need to be this long? I mean, it's a forum! It is supposed to be more dynamic than that... every time! Just compare the lengh of your replies to the others on the topic.. And that goes for every thread! I don't remember your last post that I read entirely...
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i dont think hes hurting anything...
 
the length of his post do not bother me at all.. if he wants to write that much, all the power to him.

I am just saying I never read his posts. maybe some others don't do it either...
 
Meh, no big deal. I actually agreed with pretty everything he said. I typically don't ignore posts based on length, but more on whether or not the poster has, IMO, a track record of worthless posts.
 
rockyracoon said:
Meh, no big deal. I actually agreed with pretty everything he said. I typically don't ignore posts based on length, but more on whether or not the poster has, IMO, a track record of worthless posts.
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I don't mean to get on his case... I usually read every post if the discussion is interesting, length doesn't matter to me either.. It's just that EVERY post from him is this long, he has a track record...

Well, forget it.. It's not an important discussion... I just hope he takes it as constructive criticism, as he he says interesting stuff...
 
Angrafan said:
I don't mean to get on his case... I usually read every post if the discussion is interesting, length doesn't matter to me either.. It's just that EVERY post from him is this long, he has a track record...

Well, forget it.. It's not an important discussion... I just hope he takes it as constructive criticism, as he he says interesting stuff...
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No doubt there are some who are incredibly long-winded. And yeah, like every post is just a freaking novel. It's annoying and funny, I think. At least some people's long posts actually go someplace, whereas some of the epic posts could have easily been summed up with 1/3 the text. Once again, funny and annoying.
 
If the Giants defensive front 4 can bring the pressure as they have been doing and the corners can shut down Moss...NY can take this. l like Eli...no he is not the talent that his bro is, but he's no slouch either. He got ripped earlier this year , but he put it together at the end stretch when they really had to have it. He has been playing some really smart ball...and that's all the Giants need. Offense wins games, but Defense wins Championships.
 
Kenso said:
who will win?
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People who live near the stadium and are offering their homes for rent for $20,000 for the week? (Assuming the homes don't get trashed...)

The Patriots are staying about 20 minutes from where I live...although you won't be able to get within 500 feet of the hotel unless you are a guest...

Should be an interesting week in Phoenix, with the Superbowl in Glendale and the FBR Open (golf) in Scottsdale!
 
Angrafan said:
I don't mean to be an ass... but do all your posts need to be this long? I mean, it's a forum! It is supposed to be more dynamic than that... every time! Just compare the lengh of your replies to the others on the topic.. And that goes for every thread! I don't remember your last post that I read entirely...
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It's just that I don't frequent the forum too often so when I have something I feel is worth saying, I'm either responding to multiple posts/topics at once, or I'm making an argument on a topic that is somewhat dense. I'm sure you've noticed if you don't back up anything bordering on a 'controversial' statement in every imaginable way you get flamed for 3 pages, and then if you try to explain further people say you are back tracking or scrambling to justify and make things up on the fly.

I'm sure there are several who do not care to read long posts, that' fine by me, just scroll by. Hey, this one is almost short ;)
 
I swear, the worst thing about the long downtime between the AFC/NFC Championships and the Super Bowl is having to listen to all those idiots at ESPN pretend like we really need 2 weeks worth of pre-game analysis. Who really gives a shit about Media Day? Damn, just play the game already. Ahhhhhh!!!
 
You're talking about the channel that on Tuesday already has a countdown until Monday Night Football. Not to mention how they canceled a show because the NFL was unhappy about how they showed fictional professional football players abusing drugs, taking steroids, beating their wives, etc.
 
Just goes to prove that any team can win, on any day. Giants had a great game, the Pats were off. As much as I dont want to see the Pats lose, Im glad it was to the Giants (the only other teams I follow in the NFL)
 
Personally, I enjoyed the new rules set forth for Bill being able to throw the flag on noncalled plays. Last I checked, even if you know there was a hold or pass interference, you can't throw a flag to have them review the play and call the penalty. They even said "Call Reversed." How do you reverse a call that never happened?
 
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