the altered state of consciousness thread

[Nephilim96]

Right now, I'm in a rut. I need to find a new hookup, but I'm a giant pussy.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

I bought shrooms from an old coworker a few weeks ago and have been too chicken to take them. Should they be done Inside or outside?

Is this your first time? I'd say outside in a natural setting is the most profound, but considering that you're in NYC, that might be a little tough to find. Personally I find public spaces and social conventions (i.e. buying shit) pretty repulsive on shrooms, although it does give you some interesting perspective. But inside with some of your favorite albums handy should do the trick.

Also, if it's the first time make sure you have a good "baby sitter" around. Someone who you can talk to if shit gets serious (for good or bad) but who will be chill if you just need to go inwards. I've found that shroom trips can go either way--sometimes I become very communicative and other times I don't want to talk at all-- so you want someone who can accept that.

 

[damnromulans]

Is this your first time? I'd say outside in a natural setting is the most profound, but considering that you're in NYC, that might be a little tough to find. Personally I find public spaces and social conventions (i.e. buying shit) pretty repulsive on shrooms, although it does give you some interesting perspective. But inside with some of your favorite albums handy should do the trick.

Also, if it's the first time make sure you have a good "baby sitter" around. Someone who you can talk to if shit gets serious (for good or bad) but who will be chill if you just need to go inwards. I've found that shroom trips can go either way--sometimes I become very communicative and other times I don't want to talk at all-- so you want someone who can accept that.

Good advice, to add to it make sure you have control of the setting. You'll prob make weird noises and flop around and laugh so hard you cry and then laugh again. Probably don't take more than 3.5g your first time, either, it can be an anxious time.

 

[Funerary_Doom]

Thanks a lot guys. Yes, it is going to be my first time, so according to what you're all saying will definitely do them inside. I already have ridiculous anxiety and very little filter naturally so outside in the city sounds like trouble. I bought 2 8ths. Not sure what that means exactly, but the dealer said an 8th is enough for two (beginner) people. Kinda bought way too much, but I will see if any of my friends would wanna hang and do some with me. Really excited for this!

 

[Nephilim96]

You bought a quarter, which is about 7-8 grams.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Went to an EDM show with some friends last night. My friend and I have a moonrock that we've been saving and were gonna finally take last night. It's beautiful and we got so caught up taking pictures of it that we ended up leaving it on the table at my house when we left for the show

I did have some MALI on me, but I don't think it had any MDMA in it. Got me good and high, but there was no bliss effect, so it was probably just caffeine and some other uppers. Whatever, at least the show was rad. We'll probably take the moonrock on New Years Eve.

Also planning a night or two in Joshua Tree. Hoping to shroom and maybe even hippy flip.

 

[damnromulans]

YOU GUYS

I rolled at my birthday party last night on 5-MAPB (google it). Just wanted to bond with people in tiny groups and spent the latter half shut in a bedroom complimenting people. Pretty rad!

crimsonfloyd - glad it wasn't PMA or some shit, I won't ever MALI unless I test it, around here it's all bullshit. Recent stats showed 13% of MALI samples seized in NYS contained MDMA.

 

[Summerian]

fuuuuck...
This is gonna be a hard Xmas. Just finnished making 28l of wine and I already made 28l of beer - ready to go.
Sure the wine should age and shit. And I'll let half of it be and turn into the good shit. But the rest...

 

[Vimana]

I tried sinicuichi with weed yesterday. It was like weed, but more ethereal. Essences from art seemed to make everything blend together. If I listened to music, everything else I experienced blended with it. This was really shitty when I was in my friend's car listening to music I don't like in the cold. Lots of bad essences. Not doing that again.

In the beginning, I felt a burst of strength and a desire to do things. I did a bunch of pull-ups and danced a lot before the weed brought me down again. Definitely doing it again.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Finally took my moonrock on New Years. It was by far the purest and most blissful MDMA trip I've ever had. Just pure happiness and no comedown or negative effects the day after.

Unfortunately my friend didn't warn me ahead of time that it was a gay party. And damn, gay guys are aggressive. One guy started unbottoning my shirt and offered me a blow job. Another guy who was about 50 cornered me against the wall and started dancing up on me. There was one straight girl on the dance floor so we freak danced, but in general I would have much rather of taken the drug around a lot more feminine energy. Then we had to leave at like 2:30 because my friends were tired so I lied in bed until 5 AM listening to music with a massive fucking grin on my face cuddling with my dogs.

 

[Summerian]

Don't want to ruin anyones high or noth'n but I don't know what sinicuichi or moonrock is.

Could you guys maybe be more clear for us drug knowledge impaired in the future or is it a legal thing?

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Here's a good description of the difference between ecstacy, molly and moonrocks. They're all basically MDMA, but in different forms and with differing degrees of purity.

First I have to get my terminology straight. MDMA is derived from safrole, an essential oil from the roots of the Cinnamomum parthenoxylon tree. This oil is synthesized with a variety of other chemicals and processed in a lab. It's the core component of the pill ecstasy, beloved for decades because it makes users profoundly happy by releasing serotonin and dopamine, which create feelings of love and intimacy. It makes raves better by inhibiting chemicals that cause depression and social anxiety.

You may also have heard of molly, which contains MDMA and is about as common as ecstasy these days. While performing with Avicii at Miami's Ultra Music Festival last March, even Madonna was talking about it. "How many people in this crowd have seen molly?" she asked. (She also titled her latest album MDNA.) Molly is sold as loose powder that comes in a bag or a gel capsule. You lick it off your fingertip.

Ecstasy and molly both are derived from MDMA rock crystals that have been crushed into powder. But they're often cut with various chemical adulterants — sometimes cheap and dangerous methamphetamines and shit like bath salts — that negate its purity.

Moon rocks, then, are crystals derived from MDMA synthesis that aren't cut with anything — essentially, pure MDMA. It is this purity that makes them both attractive and rare. They're typically cloudy, with a brown or yellowish hue, and they're ingested by breaking off a piece of the crystal and letting it dissolve on the tongue.

http://www.laweekly.com/2012-11-01/music/moon-rocks-electronic-dance-music-silk-road/

 

[Vimana]

Sinicuichi is a Mexican herb that has effects similar to weed, but milder in some ways, and more intense in others. It's basically a more psychedelic weed. It creates a more expansive, clearer, more locked headspace, and vibes of everything blend together. It's easy to get locked into a song or a picture or anything pleasurable to experience through the senses. There's no dehydration or munchies. The only bad symptom I've experienced is a pain in the eyes when smoking too much too quickly. How pleasurable it is depends on how pleasurable surroundings are. Good music and the right setting make it amazing.

 

[Nephilim96]

Where can you get sinicuichi?

 

[Vimana]

Online. It's legal.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Sinicuichi sounds interesting. I would definitely like to try that.

 

[Vimana]

It's great. Eventually, sounds are a lot "fuller." I really notice it when I say words with s in them.

There's also this other sensory thing I can't completely describe. I haven't smoked sinicuichi alone, so I can't be certain this isn't a synergy effect, but it's kind of like senses end up "pictured" in my head in this weird visual/tactile way. It's kind of like the sensory information traveling to me becomes part of a "map" of my surroundings that is half picture, half some kind of space of movement. I guess in some weird way, it's like imaginary echolocation of things around me, except I can see them, too.

 

[damnromulans]

Finally took my moonrock on New Years. It was by far the purest and most blissful MDMA trip I've ever had. Just pure happiness and no comedown or negative effects the day after.

Unfortunately my friend didn't warn me ahead of time that it was a gay party. And damn, gay guys are aggressive. One guy started unbottoning my shirt and offered me a blow job. Another guy who was about 50 cornered me against the wall and started dancing up on me. There was one straight girl on the dance floor so we freak danced, but in general I would have much rather of taken the drug around a lot more feminine energy. Then we had to leave at like 2:30 because my friends were tired so I lied in bed until 5 AM listening to music with a massive fucking grin on my face cuddling with my dogs.

This is so funny. Glad you had a good time and made the best of it.

I personally almost exclusively prefer feminine energy on any drug that enhances love/spiritual feelings. I tend to find masculinity and anything overtly sexual to be offensive and I can't picture a darker hell than an all dude dance party.

 

[Vimana]

I just smoked some Calea Zacatechichi extract. There's this greater "presence" in sensory information, and my thoughts go so much deeper that it's making me uncomfortable. I'm basically sitting in my room now inadvertently picking apart and becoming puzzled with my own personality.

Okay, now switching on music. Much better. Holy shit. During the climax, I felt like energy was radiating out of my body. Fuck. This is awesome.

 

[Nephilim96]

For those of you who have done amphetamines, what was it like, and how much did you do? Just curious.

EDIT: I found some old Adderall ER of mine, and I took about 50 mg or so about 45 minutes ago (took the salts out of the pills, and digested it enterally by licking my finger). Considering I've taken Adderall before, and that I'm fairly big (6'3" and ~235 lbs), I thought it wasn't too much. I used to take about 20 mgs when they thought I had ADHD, so I thought 50 was an okay place to start for me.

I'm feeling pretty good, with a pretty good body high and medium euphoria. I might try this again, but I don't think I'd do it too often, take too much, or go out of my way to get it. The high doesn't seem all that different from smoking weed, and considering the health problems amphetamines can cause, It's not really worth it imo.