JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
It's so amazing that you guys can turn music away because the vocals are clean!! It's like one of those Twillight Zone scenarios where some guy gets stuck in a world where everything is opposite. 
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NAD
What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
Hey I don't do that! There are many reasons why I hate power metal and it's not the cleanliness of the vocals that bother me, it's the delivery!
Honestly I have come to require at least one clean vocal delivery for death metal releases over the past year or two. If Morbid Angel can do it, so can you.
Honestly I have come to require at least one clean vocal delivery for death metal releases over the past year or two. If Morbid Angel can do it, so can you.
J.
Old Fart
I actually have many "clean" vocaled albums. All of my stoner bands use clean vocals, as does Agalloch, Nightingale, etc..
As NAD said, it's the delivery. I don't want to hear some guy that sounds like his nuts are in a vice. Other than that, I don't like the happy-go-lucky sound of power metal.
As NAD said, it's the delivery. I don't want to hear some guy that sounds like his nuts are in a vice. Other than that, I don't like the happy-go-lucky sound of power metal.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
NAD said:
You're missing out buddy. Seriously, if you listen to Gamma Ray, you'd be hard pressed to differentiate them with Megadeth. Land of the Free is a REMARKABLE album, I swear. Also, check out Blind Guardian (Imaginations from the Other Side) and Angra (Rebirth), where the latter exists in my top ten of all time.
I do admit that 99% of power metal is just horrible, but if you can filter through the good from the bad, the good can be really good.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
Dreamlord said:
Agalloch? OK, but the vocals on Stone Wind & Pillor scare the crap out of me!
Nightingale????!!!! Isn't that Dan Swano doing his best to sound halfway between David Coverdale and that singer in Soul Asylum? Come on, get serious bro. You can't diss ALL of power metal and then say you like Whitesnake.
But when you're in a good mood, the sun is shining, you just got a raise, you've got the open road ahead of you....don't you just want to put on some happy music to match the mood? Why is life that sombre otherwise? I dunno - I like to sing along and get into the swing of heavy metal.
NAD
What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
Black Sabbath - Sabbra CadabraJayKeeley said:But when you're in a good mood, the sun is shining, you just got a raise, you've got the open road ahead of you....don't you just want to put on some happy music to match the mood? Why is life that sombre otherwise? I dunno - I like to sing along and get into the swing of heavy metal.
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Best. Happy song. Ever.
I do plan on getting that Middle-earth release by Blind Guardian someday soon, I'll let you know how that works out.
i think it is funny how no one has voter for the CoB, seeing as they are the only ones on the list that didn't really change their sound!
J.
Old Fart
JayKeeley said:
Really? I find "Kneel to the Cross" to be a beautiful song, not scary in the least.
Nightingale????!!!! Isn't that Dan Swano doing his best to sound halfway between David Coverdale and that singer in Soul Asylum? Come on, get serious bro. You can't diss ALL of power metal and then say you like Whitesnake.
hehe, well I don't think Swano is trying to sound like anybody. He sounds like good ol' Dan to me. His clean vocals haven't changed a bit since Crimson, yet no one says anything about the clean vocals on that album.
Some other bands that use "cleans" that I like:
Amorphis, Arcane Sun, Bathory, Cathedral, Cave In, Clutch, dayinthelife...,Devin Townsend, Die Verbannten Kinder Evas, Edge of Sanity, Emperor, Enid, Geasa, Green Carnation, Hopesfall, In the Woods, Kyuss, Life of Agony, Poison the Well, Primordial, Scissorfight, Slow Horse, Wolverine.
But when you're in a good mood, the sun is shining, you just got a raise, you've got the open road ahead of you....don't you just want to put on some happy music to match the mood? Why is life that sombre otherwise? I dunno - I like to sing along and get into the swing of heavy metal.
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Great rockin' road music: Clutch, Kyuss, 5ive, Scissorfight, Acid Bath, Keelhaul. If I want happy, I'll play some Simon & Garfunkel or something. Nothing beats jammin' to stoner rock on the open road to make you feel like a million bucks. Isis Old Man Gloom is good times. Devin Townsend writes music made for the road. .hopesfall. is very uplifting.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
Yeah but to be fair, that is a Sol Invictus cover. The rest of the album is pretty haunting IMO.Dreamlord said:
Yeah I know he's not trying to sound like anyone, but you have to admit, he does have a bit of David Coverdale going on, hehehe. Have you ever heard any Soul Asylum? Remember that song Runaway Train - holy cow, if that isn't Swano....
I think I heard Edge of Sanity stuff after Nightingale, so I've always felt Swano had a bit of an 80's rocker voice. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I was just trying to pick holes in your argument about hating anything labelled 'happy' or 'power' (unsuccesully
). Hey, it's all love ma man.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
halfway. lately in flames have been known at concerts to tell fans to jump around instead of bang their heads. touring with slipknot (thus becoming slipknot wannabes) will do that to you.
so. . . "JUMP, YOU MUTHAFUKKAZZZ!!!"
so. . . "JUMP, YOU MUTHAFUKKAZZZ!!!"
Papa Josh
Minister of Propaganda
I voted Hypocrisy because it's the only one I own out of the choices...
I liked the single off of the latest Soilwork, but have yet to hear any of the rest.
As far as Children Of Bodom, well they just bore me, quite frankly.
And R2R... sucks big hairy homeless man balls...
My opinion on In Flames is as follows, I am one of the few here who truly appreciates Whoracle, Subterranean is my favorite release. The Jester Race.. the only songs I really listen to are the first two. Colony was good at the time, don't play it often. Clayman and Lunar Strain the same.
Oh and I own every last Whitesnake release, all the way back to the '70's. :Smokin:
I liked the single off of the latest Soilwork, but have yet to hear any of the rest.
As far as Children Of Bodom, well they just bore me, quite frankly.
And R2R... sucks big hairy homeless man balls...
My opinion on In Flames is as follows, I am one of the few here who truly appreciates Whoracle, Subterranean is my favorite release. The Jester Race.. the only songs I really listen to are the first two. Colony was good at the time, don't play it often. Clayman and Lunar Strain the same.
Oh and I own every last Whitesnake release, all the way back to the '70's. :Smokin:
Erik
New Metal Member
Yeah, they did that. Only during one song though (I believe it was "Only for the Weak") after which Anders said "OK, enough of the disco bullshit... Now we're going back to thrash metal" or something to that effect...Black Winter Day said:
...and then they proceeded to play a song from R2R.
HarmonyDies....
Semi-True
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
Papa Josh said:
Colony is SO bubblegum pop-oriented, I do not understand the difference between that and Clayman. I even listened to Colony this morning and I swear, I don't get why people who hate Clayman can still love Colony.
Likewise, how can people that hate R2R still love Clayman? The direction that In Flames took is clear cut - there is no hidden agenda there. From album to album the band took on a gradual change - no surprises in other words.
I don't really care what people like and dislike at the end of the day, but at least spell the reasoning out with the logic. I mean, it's like people who say they hate In Their Darkened Shrines, and yet love Black Seeds of Vengeance! Does anyone care to explain that too?
How are Clayman and R2R any different from each other, apart from the fact that Clayman has a couple more guitar solos and clean vocals limited to choruses only?
Erik
New Metal Member
'Cause while the style is similar, the songwriting on Clayman sucks. There are no Zombie Inc's, no Embody the Invisibles, no Coerced Coexistences on Clayman... Just a bland grey mass of half-assed crud.JayKeeley said:
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
phyre said:
That's YOUR opinion. I'm not a big fan of opinions stated as if they were facts. I happen to THINK Bullet Ride, Brush The Dust Away, Another Day In Quicksand, Clayman & Swim off of Clayman are among the best songs they've ever done.
Off of Colony I love Embody the Invisible, Zombie Inc., Ordinary Story, Coerced Coexistence & The New Word, so it's almost about even for me personally.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
From Clayman, I think Pinball Map, Bullet Ride, and Clayman are excellent. I also think that Square Nothing is one of the best In Flames songs ever!
The point I'm trying to make is that people are sounding off as if Clayman and Colony are worlds apart. How can that be? Same with Clayman and R2R. Are we really saying that one is Nightside Eclipse and the other is Q2K?
I also think that (for the most part), In Flames fans are scared to stray away from the debate for fear of backlash. Fans corner and bully other fans into believing something that they wouldn't have come up with themselves. You only have to spend 10 minutes on the other boards to figure that one out! It's ruthless out there!!!
The point I'm trying to make is that people are sounding off as if Clayman and Colony are worlds apart. How can that be? Same with Clayman and R2R. Are we really saying that one is Nightside Eclipse and the other is Q2K?
I also think that (for the most part), In Flames fans are scared to stray away from the debate for fear of backlash. Fans corner and bully other fans into believing something that they wouldn't have come up with themselves. You only have to spend 10 minutes on the other boards to figure that one out! It's ruthless out there!!!
