The dollar sucks (W. sucks)
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Dark One
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I shall be drowning my sorrows by exchanging my worthless paper into to the mighty krona in June. 
If you're interested, here's a real good article on the issue.Ok, then I must have been misinformed. He's just overruled then, eh?
Time Article
If you're looking for a reason to paint McCain as someone who is willing to sell his principles for a ticket to the Whitehouse, look no further than religion.
By the way, speaking of people I have a growing distaste for, did anyone see Hillary's speech on Martin Luther King Day? It had to be the most disingenuous thing I've ever witnessed in my life.
Zod
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Dark One
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While Time is hardly my first choice for unbiased journalism, that is definitely a very fair article and a good read.
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The Falwell hardcore zombies unfortunately make up a large portion of the conservative voting base. Without those votes, he can't win. It's pandering - I'm not proud of him for it, but that's what it is, and the other candidates are not above it either.
Zod said:
I don't think she's ever convinced me for a single second that she's ever been truly genuine about anything. Obama comes across at 1000% more genuine than she could ever hope to be.
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I have more cash money now than I may ever have again in my lifetime and the intrinsic value of it continues to diminish. AWESOME.
Anyway, your average person is completely uninformed. People would rather watch Deal or No Dealthan pick up an economics journal or a national newspaper.
Anyway, your average person is completely uninformed. People would rather watch Deal or No Dealthan pick up an economics journal or a national newspaper.
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Reign in Acai
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I think I could put on a more convincing delivery over the death of a black man than this bint. I mean, how hard is it to hold back a smirk?!?!
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I agree that all candidates pander. It's an unfortunate part of campaigning. But there's a difference between pandering and buddying up to someone you recently referred to as an "agent of intolerance" (especially in my eyes). Much of my respect for McCain came from his unwillingness to validate people like Falwell and Robertson. His newfound willingness to due their bidding in exchange for votes, coupled with his eagerness to fall in line with our failed Iraq policies (at every turn), leave him in a position where he's barely distinguishable from any other right wing hawk.
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Dark One
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I don't find it as surprising as you do, I just find it to be an unfortunate part of the political process (again, one I'm not proud of or would argue in favor of).
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He championed the surge that took the inept administration over 4 years to implement, a surge that has been very effective (yes I know your only definition of effective was to never have gone in the first place). I certainly trust him to handle the conflict far more than Bush ever could. The 100 years comment has been continually taken out of context as it refers to troops being in place to help keep the peace after the majority of troops taking part in combat related missions are finally withdrawn, much in the same way troops are still in Korea, Germany, etc. after the major combat operations ceased in those areas. It does not mean that McCain wants to see combat missions taking place indefinitely in Iraq. I respectfully disagree with you that McCain is some type of war mongering fascist Neo Con villain that is merely G.W. getting a 3rd term.
Reign in Acai
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Ahhh I can't wait to call Governor Palin our VP. The bint is merely 44 years old and hotter than the soil in Nairobi. Seriously, I dare anyone on this forum to tell me with a straight face that they wouldn't violate her pooper in the name of oil.
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Former Beauty Queen No Less! Grand Ole Partay Indeed!
I love the term "surge". Another perfect example of this administration's tireless spin machine. When you send more troops into battle, it's an escalation.
While I get your point, I trust Jerry Springer would handle this conflict better than Bush has.
Was him singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" also taken out of context?
Kind of a straw man argument. I called him a "hawk", which he is.
Zod
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Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
An escalation that has led to an undeniable downturn in the number of deaths across the board.
Zod said:
And I wouldn't presume to debate you on that one. I agree.
Zod said:
An annoying joke that was followed by his actual thoughts on the question posed to him.
Zod said:
Given the context of your posting history on the subject, I find it surprising that you would differentiate the terms "hawk" and "war monger" as it relates to McCain's Iraq positions. If you are differentiating and feel that "hawk" is a less harsh term to use than "war monger", than the clarification is definitely appreciated.
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Keep in mind, I never, ever bring it up unless someone else brings it up to me first, or if there is a blanket discussion taking place around me and the discussion becomes impossible to avoid.
Ars Magna
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I suddenly don't give a shit that the dollar sucks and that the current "President" is one of the biggest pieces of fuck ever.
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
To be honest, I find it somewhat bizarre that conservatives even feel like this is a winning point for them. It only illustrates what a complete clusterfuck this war has been. We "temporarily" escalated the war, and the violence has "temporarily" been reduced. That's not exactly a brilliant strategic move. More cops on the street means less crime. We've seen this time and time again in the streets of our own country. And this might be a smart move if a few months of decreased death totals would impact the long term outcome. But this strategy is only meant buy the current administration time until they can dump this into the lap of the next administration.
What we continue to fail to realize is that these people have fundamental differences on the nature if Islam. We, as a Christian nation, are not going to show up, add a few thousand troops, and resolve this mess. We are only prolonging the inevitable.
The joke isn't annoying, it's irresponsible. And hopefully it's a clip we see over and over and over again in the months leading up to the general election. Anyone with McCain's "years of experience", who thinks dropping bombs on people (some of which will be completely innocent) is funny, in any context, shouldn't be president.
When I disagree with people, I try to avoid intentionally inflammatory language, as it serves no real purpose.
Aside from the fact that I believe the term is inflammatory, I think being a "hawk" and being a "warmonger" are much different. I'm not trying to compare McCain to Attila the Hun.
I think it's that "I (Heart) W." t-shirt you wear that incites me so.
Zod
