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Yes i just wish i knew some decent hubs that have lots of metal on them, so im beat
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Yes i just wish i knew some decent hubs that have lots of metal on them, so im beat
iAMtheblackwizards said:
What you need is eMule. There is quite a bit of metal on the network it uses because most of the users are from Europe. eMule's scale is much bigger than say Kazaa. People put up full albums and even full discographies up for download. The only problem is that it's pretty slow. It takes days to get some files. But of course it's a good idea to support the bands and buy the albums you like. Unfortunately downloading is pretty much the only way to get some music. For example I really want to get Porcupine Tree's Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun albums. But they're both out of print! And there's no way I'm gonna pay $100 for an album(that's how much one guy is selling SD for on Amazon).
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I download to know if the album is good or not and if the band is good or not. I don't share. I buy more than I download, but another reason to dl is because I'm not goin' to pay like $17 or more just for a cd. Maybe if they were less than $10 or so , I would buy them more, and less people would dl,
What does RIAA stand for Anyway?
What does RIAA stand for Anyway?
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Don't pay more than $15 for Lightbulb Sun from Porcupine Tree, it's not worth it.
Just last year it was amazingly easy to find Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream, so easy that I found them at every store and online ordering place... are you sure they are hard to find? I find that a little hard to believe...
Just last year it was amazingly easy to find Lightbulb Sun and Stupid Dream, so easy that I found them at every store and online ordering place... are you sure they are hard to find? I find that a little hard to believe...
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C-Taylor said:
You are a sad person. You are the type that give a bad name to file-sharing. People previewing their music is on thing, but stealing. There are enough problems faced by metal musicians many of them being financial. Sure the established acts and big names in corporate music are the ones bitching cause they cant add another gold coin to their pool of money. The smaller ones get hurt and helped at the same time. Sure their name gets out there but the priveledge of P2P gets abused. There is a difference between previewing and stealing. Thanks for making that much harder to keep a record deal, eat, etc ...asshole.
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SADUDE said:
I agree, thats why i will steal from the RIAA, but not anyone else. The RIAA steal from their musicians anyway, at boycott-riaa.com they have a breakdown of nirvanas income after the in utero album, and they were actually in debt 14,000 dollars after selling however many copies they did (it was a bunch, obviously) but the label was still up 7 million. Most metal bands aside from like maiden and priest are not on RIAA labels, so pretty much i do buy everything i can get my hands on anyway, because at least i know the money will get where its supposed to. There was some website where you can send your money directly to bands, i forget what it was, but its like if you burn a cd, youre supposed to send like 15 bucks to the band itself, to spite the shitty RIAA label they are on, this way at least the band does get the money they diserve for putting out something worth listening to. If i can find that link ill post it.
i leave you all with these words:
FUCK THE RIAA
That article was written by Steve Albini
It was not about nirvana...In utero sold millions of copies. THey did well, but I bet even if they did make say a few million, the lables made like 20-30 million.
that article is EXACTLY how a major label contract works in the US. If you read carefully, the nameless band sold 250,000 copies-not a bad sell for a first disc. But they rae still in the hole $14,000USD.
Basically, it's so loaded against you, unless you sell 500,000 copies(gold record level in the US) you don't even break even.
You start to see money if you cross 1,000,000 in sales.
Artists get .25 to 1.00USD per CD sold in the US-and you only get the $1.00 if you are Metallica or Aerosmith. I would say the average is something like .30USD per disc sold.
Even some major American pop Artists went broke after selling millions of discs-ask TLC and a few others.
The major labels are outliving their usefullness-and their monopoly is starting to crumble.
It was not about nirvana...In utero sold millions of copies. THey did well, but I bet even if they did make say a few million, the lables made like 20-30 million.
that article is EXACTLY how a major label contract works in the US. If you read carefully, the nameless band sold 250,000 copies-not a bad sell for a first disc. But they rae still in the hole $14,000USD.
Basically, it's so loaded against you, unless you sell 500,000 copies(gold record level in the US) you don't even break even.
You start to see money if you cross 1,000,000 in sales.
Artists get .25 to 1.00USD per CD sold in the US-and you only get the $1.00 if you are Metallica or Aerosmith. I would say the average is something like .30USD per disc sold.
Even some major American pop Artists went broke after selling millions of discs-ask TLC and a few others.
The major labels are outliving their usefullness-and their monopoly is starting to crumble.
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MetalChef said:
Well i misread it, which i do from time to time, but either way i still loathe all the RIAA stand for, and its still amazing how they do rob bands blind that are succesful.
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SADUDE said:
i have a huge mp3 collection. I am considering not buying cd's anymore because they are extremely over priced. 20 bucks for a piece of plastic? I think not.The riaa is going to lose this battle against the consumers and their gonna lose big, once they do the music industry is going to have to go through a radical change. It's high time the consumers stopped getting ripped off.
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Degenerate Machinery said:
The local mall sells cd's for 20-25 a pop, but i had a store that sold em for 12. But now it slowly went to 14 then to 16. Cd prices seem to be rising too. I agree they are rediculously over-priced. I used to give more bands a chance and buy on reccomendation alone or barely any knowledge. Now I try to be more confident bbefore the purchase. I have considered what you have but I am a musician as well so I feel even worse about it, because I know how hard shit already is. Cd' should be 8-10 bucks. I wish that I could damage the label by stop buying cds. Realistally as much as the label takes a blow, the bands feel it harder. This does need to be changed...but Id rather have over-priced metal than none at all.
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