I don't see how muted guitars are heavy because they're muted. I'm not against palm mutting it's just the more muting the less heavy something sounds, you're not holding out chords/notes for sustaine to see how heavy guitars are.
The heaviest album of 2007?
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I don't see how muted guitars are heavy because they're muted. I'm not against palm mutting it's just the more muting the less heavy something sounds, you're not holding out chords/notes for sustaine to see how heavy guitars are.
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P. Stevenson
The muting is necessary for the brutal rhythm. sustaining the notes are good for extreme breakdowns, but when i think of kicking faces in...i think of muted rhythms with extreme bass
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Houses Ov Mercury
When you mute, you can make the rhythm seem heavier, thus making everything heavy. Why can't you fucking understand this?
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P. Stevenson
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Houses Ov Mercury
No problem, Greys/DD just has an inferiority complex when faced with the words "brutal death metal" that just makes him hate everything having to do with it unconditionally. He's retarded, so whatever.
Muting is compressing,dumbing down, and compromising sound making something less heavy and even less loud. dur
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P. Stevenson
muting makes the rhythm brutal...play a death metal song that uses palm mutes and sustain the note and see what happens...it's going to sound like shit.
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Palm muting just sounds "heavy." Perhaps it's an intangeable quality, though you could say that muting makes the rhythm of the riffs shaper and harsher. Even with Black Sabbath, their heaviest songs are the ones where they use muting (Symptom of the Universe, Into the Void, Children of the Grave, etc.). And way back in the early 80s, one of the big reasons thrash was so much heavier than the other music around at the time was because it incorporated palm muting to a much greater extent (I would say that this set it apart from the other metal of the time moreso than speed). IMO black metal is generally not heavy (albeit evil sounding), and one of the main reasons for this is that black metal usually incorporates little to no palm muting.
Point made. I love palm muting.
Point made. I love palm muting.
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
Uh. No. Not a chance.
Electric Wizard - Funeralopolis is heavier than ANY brutal death metal song.
Stoner doom as a whole is heavier than any BDM.
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Mort Divine
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Sounds like a downtuned, most extreme version of Black Sabbath. The guitar tone is very thick, fuzzy and bassy, so I can see what you mean by heavy.
Of all that have been mentioned so far I'd go with Defeated Sanity. Technically it hasn't come out yet but I'd also mention Rotten Sound's upcoming album, Cycles. Sounds far more aggressive and pissed off than any brutal death metal does to me.
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P. Stevenson
Electric Wizard is by no means heavier than any of the bands we have listed before...at all. If the definition of heavy was shitty, fuzzy, fender practice bass amp sounding guitar, you would be right.
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Houses Ov Mercury
1. Defeated Sanity really isn't fucking heavy at all...I listened to the new album again just to make sure, and it really isn't. It's fast and extreme, but the tone just isn't screaming DISMEMBER, ELECTRIC WIZARD, SUFFOCATION, DEVOURMENT, etc... THOSE are heavy!
2. Aggressive/pissed off != heavy. Sorry.
Also, Mort you're a fucking fag if you're going to say Funeralopolis is heavy, but this somehow isn't? It's not like only one thing can be fucking heavy...
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P. Stevenson
am i the only one thinking heaviness depends on the rhythm used? because im listenin to some of this stuff and am not feeling the urge to kill...that means it must not be heavy enough...
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Heavy doesn't mean an extreme low end bassy quality that causes the speakers to vibrate. If that were the case, mainstream hip hop would be as heavy as fuck. IMO, stoner doom is not heavy. I did listen to the Electric Wizard track. I don't think it's bad, but I don't think it's heavy. Devourment, Defeated Sanity, Wormed, etc. are heavy in my opinion, not downtuned stoner doom with such an extreme emphasis on the bassy end of the sound that the tone sounds fuzzy.
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If by rhythm you mean the rhythm of the picking of the guitar, then yes. that's where the whole palm muting thing comes in, as palm muting is all about rhythm.
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P. Stevenson
exactly...thank you. people are posting these bands and im listenin and wondering where the heaviness is...
It's all about the guitar rhythm and the kick drum
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