The heaviest songs ever...

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Berzerker - The Principles and Practices of Embalming


I agree, berzerker is a heavy band. But there are so many ways to define the word 'heavy' as well.
im assuming you've heard the song. this, i think is the heaviest song they've done. not the fastest or most brutal. but just the whole way through, Opening riff - monologue with drums at the end, its just crushing like nothing else.
im talking heavy not like, cover your ears. but if this were a Tangible object, and you tried to hold it. you would currently be recieving the most brutal of ass raping's from its weight alone.
 
I honestly don't understand why so many people think that Black Sabbath is the heaviest band ever. Most of their stuff is slow and bluesy, and the riffs aren't really heavy and crushing. I personally can't think of a heaviest song, but some of the heaviest bands are Suffocation, Drunkard, Disavowed, Fleshcrawl, Torture Squad, and Demigod (Slumber of Sullen Eyes).
 
Slow = heavy

Thus, Black Sabbath is one of the heaviest bands ever. Their riffs are heavy! The emotion some of those songs carry adds to that.

Some heavy albums.. (all those songs are heavy)

Buried At Sea - Migration
Corrupted - Se Hace Por Los Suenos Asesinos
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Eyehategod - Take As Needed For Pain
Melvins - Gluey Porch Treatments
 
Well, not everything that is slow is heavy. For instance, Down, Katatonia, Paradise Lost, Lacuna Coil, Crematory, etc. are not heavy at all. I especially don't see bluesy riffs or gothic metal as being heavy. Slow, disonant minor riffs can be though.
 
T3hLep4rAffinity said:
How the hell are Black Sabbath one of the heaviest bands ever? Someone please explain it.

The definition of heavy being "having a bludgeoning low-end assault," I don't see how they're not one of the heaviest bands ever.
 
i definitely don't agree that slow = heavy, even though i've seen some of fin-laden's fave bands on other threads and there are some quality bands..
slow bands, minimal bands, fast bands, death metal/black metal, all has potential to be heavy..
ALTHOUGH....
there IS a difference between heavy and intense, some neurosis type stuff and some death metal is intense, but not necessarily that heavy.. so.. there is another little discussion for you.
 
Slow = heavy is true with most of the bands. I admit too much melody and a lack of heavy riffs (with a healthy amount of distortion) can fuck up the impression. That being said, if you look at the way things are in the nature with a few exceptions everything slow is usually heavy. The ocean packs a huge amount of weight and it moves slowly. For a wave to gain some speed takes forever, yet they can do a serious amount of damage, all because of the weight behind it. Most of the small, light animals are fast, they can change direction and accelerate fast, be very fucking loud, aggressive. Yet, when a bigger, heavier animal (an elephant for example) stamps on them they're very much dead. That's because it crushes them with it's weight. You know, to move anything heavy you need a terrible amount of force behind it, the law of nature. Slow music don't have much shifts in tempo, it just moves on like there's some huge unexplainable force behind it to move those slow, resin soaked riffs. That to my mind is an impression of heaviness.


Now, this is just my idea of which type of music this word fits the best. It's not written anywhere how you interpret it so I'm not going to debate.
 
Ufomammut is an amazing band. Like a bastard son of Pink Floyd and Electric Wizard..


Anyone into heavy, psychedelic music check them out NOW!
 
I can understand very well how slow and crushing can be heavy. But the way a riff is played, what kind of scale/mode it is written in, and the kind of distortion that is used, are also all important factors. A riff needs to be atonal, dissonant, or in a minor mode to be heavy - this gives it that dark, gloomy, or evil nature that it needs to qualify as heavy. Nothing in the panatonic/blues scale can sound truely heavy, since that scale doesn't sound dark enough. Like the main riff to Metallica's Sad But True (shitty song btw, but a good example that everyone should be familiar with) is very slow and very bluesy, with plenty of distortion, but not at all heavy. I'm starting to ramble now, but I think you get the gist of what I am attempting to articulate here.
 
The reason why Sabbath is so fucking heavy is simple. THEY WROTE THAT SHIT IN THE FUCKING SEVENTIES!! There, do you understand now? How can you say that Sabbath doesn't play in minor keys? Have you actually heard the song "Black Sabbath"? Sounds minor key to me.
 
Ironbird666 said:
The reason why Sabbath is so fucking heavy is simple. THEY WROTE THAT SHIT IN THE FUCKING SEVENTIES!! There, do you understand now? How can you say that Sabbath doesn't play in minor keys? Have you actually heard the song "Black Sabbath"? Sounds minor key to me.
Yes, they were indeed heavy for their time. Even Led Zeppelin, who are not metal by any strech of the imagination, were heavy for that time. However, Black Sabbath are not that heavy compared to many of today's extreme metal bands.
 
Life Sucks said:
I can understand very well how slow and crushing can be heavy. But the way a riff is played, what kind of scale/mode it is written in, and the kind of distortion that is used, are also all important factors. A riff needs to be atonal, dissonant, or in a minor mode to be heavy - this gives it that dark, gloomy, or evil nature that it needs to qualify as heavy. Nothing in the panatonic/blues scale can sound truely heavy, since that scale doesn't sound dark enough. Like the main riff to Metallica's Sad But True (shitty song btw, but a good example that everyone should be familiar with) is very slow and very bluesy, with plenty of distortion, but not at all heavy. I'm starting to ramble now, but I think you get the gist of what I am attempting to articulate here.
I'm afraid we disagree here because of a key belief that you and I differ on. Metal does not need to sound 'evil' or 'gloomy' to be heavy, or to be metal. If you recall, much of Sabbath's early stuff is blues-influenced, and very heavy. "Enter Sandman" is also very bluesy, and although overplayed beyond the grave, the riff is one of the heaviest ever IMO.

Zeppelin were heavier than other bands of the time, yes. Notice how they did that with blues-based riffs. I'd call them metal...if you notice, they were experimental from the onset and hardly subscribed to "rock" song structuring or development. "Black Dog" is still heavier than a lot of the radio shit we hear today. Don't even get me started on "Whole Lotta Love."
 
Morbid Angel - Fall From Grace
Cannibal Corpse - Beyond The Cemetary
Candlemass - Under The Oak
Psycroptic - Battling The Misery In Organon
Pantera - The Art Of Shredding
Iced Earth - Damien
Meshuggah - Future Breed Machine
Exhumed - Fester Forever
Pig Destroyer - Lost Cause
Nile - Execration Text
The Chasm - I Am The Hateful Raven
Dungeon - I Am Death
Dying Fetus - Grotesque Impalement
Bloodbath - Furnace Funeral
Slayer - Exile
Slayer - Raining Blood