the new LA thrash scene, does it deliver the thrash?

[HatchetDrummer]

They came back? I got the 'Above The Ashes' album on my computer, GREAT Thrash.

Damn, I wish we had ANY kind of Thrash scene around here. The scene seems to be all "Hardcore" and Emo. I'm in New York, and rarely come across an Anthrax or Overkill or Nuclear Assault fan, let alone anything obscure like Crumbsuckers or Carnivore.

My Band is playing a show with them next week, they are back and they fucking kick ass, their new stuff is sick. Its all the old guys except for the drummer.

SF is where its at right now, thrash is making a stirr in the underground.

Fucking metalcore emo shit sucks, its a disgrace, but its better then a bunch of fags dancing around on stage together lipsyncing. I'll take guys that look like girls crying over their ex's anyday over that shit that the late 90's gave us.

/rant

 

[Wyvern]

@Wyv : Abandonned are killer! I saw them at the very end of a festival in Germany, after the headliner had played, almost everybody was exhausted or drunk (well, that's Germany ) and nobody expected that band but they truly impressed the crowd (and myself!).

Told you They're my #3 album of the year and the more I hear newer bands or material the more I'm impressed with them. It's an astounding debut and they balance perfectly the agression from bands like Slayer, Kreator, Dark Angel with the melody of bands like Megadeth, Metallica, Testament, Heathen and balance not to be too raw and not to be too melodic with voclas just hard enough to deliver the right impression in the listener.

Some other bands standing in the spectrum of thrash (from raw to melodic) that are worth to consider that I have listen to lately include: Contradiction (Germany), Enforcer (Sweden, those guys are great), Merciless Death (USA), Headless Cross (England) and our friends from Final Stage (although they have much more influences than just thrash).

 

[dEaThToFaLsEmEtAl34]

I can understand if new bands want to play thrash but it seems like they try too hard to be retro with the whole "jean jacket with patches thing".

 

[The saYer]

I can understand if new bands want to play thrash but it seems like they try too hard to be retro with the whole "jean jacket with patches thing".

I don't see what is wrong with that, they are building the thrasher identity, and not being retro, this is why emo has ruled over thrash for so long, because the real thrash identity is destroyed and emo has more tolarance, I would rather see a thrasher band with jeans rather than those ugly baggy black goth pants that new exodus wears.

It defines a genre that has been misunderstood for so long because it creates the right atmosphere.

Just because people wore them in the 80s doesnt mean that no one else can, its not an 80s thing anymore, its a thrasher thing, get with the times.

 

[Wyvern]

this is why emo has ruled over thrash for so long, because the real thrash identity is destroyed and emo has more tolarance, I would rather see a thrasher band with jeans rather than those ugly baggy black goth pants that new exodus wears.

A couple of notes:

1. I don't think emo ruled over shit! I's just another trendy-fashion pop thing. Thrash is metal and therefore no one rule over metal (I know you are a metalhead I'm just defining word use )
2. Thrash and metal in general is about the music not the looks IMO. When I was at PPVII I was kind of surprised I was among the "less" regarding metal fashion. Most bands and audience does not care for lots of leather, denim, spikes, patches and so. But the music said it all (regardless if I like it or not, there was no poppy crap there).

Many bands today don't have long hair anymore, playing in shorts is not seeing as bad as was 10 years ago, etc.

Last Thursday I was in a radio show as invited guest and two guys from Arsenal a thrash band were there too. They are celebrating 10 years in the local scene playing not only thrash with very harsh vocals, but also with only two changes in the line-up in 10 years and doing it in Spanish (two complete CDs and an EP under their belt and composing material for the third album). I do remember them like 7 years ago and then now and they have grow up and adapted to the time, they don't look like menacing mane-wearing spike covered leather and denim warriors anymore, but trust me the music hasn't lost intensity at all. And as they quote: we'll keep on playing until we can. (btw if you want you can check them here http://www.arsenal-cr.com/).

 

[The saYer]

cool, well, I said I would rather see them like that not that they had to, I guess what I meant to say is that it was kinda cool that thrash had this identity cause it was pretty unique, or else people say, you like thrash? so you like lamb of god and shadows fall? and thrash was never really defined.

I don't see this metal warriors look as an 80s thing either, maybe that is why I have this perspective. its like if somebody plays in a mariachi band and wears a wide sombrero and their whole getup, they will not be accused of being retro.

Hey you mariachi!! stop being so 30's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Wyvern]

and thrash was never really defined.

You think so? To me thrash is pretty well defined by its sound, some bands are pretty close to thrash (especially speed metal) but never got that special sound I have in my mind that make me jump ans scream THRASH!

As a matter of fact Metallica and Megadeth don't have totally that click in their early albums (and lost it afterwards).

So I have my "thrash" bands divided into three categories according the way they sound to me:

Pure thrash

Testament, Coroner, Heathen, Abandoned, Anacrusis, Imperium, Darkness, Hallows Eve, Kreator, Death Angel, Dark Angel, Angel Dust (early), Sodom, Forbidden

Thrash/speed

Abattoir, Exciter, Flotsam And Jetsam, Horcas, Impaler, Intruder, Meliah Rage, Nasty Savage, Zoetrope, Metallica, Megadeth, Hirax

Something else with thrash on it or thrash with something else on it

Celtic Frost (and Hellhammer), Anthrax (Belladona era), Suicidal Tendencies (especially old albums), Pariah, Metal Church, Venom (but last album is pure thrash)

 

[The saYer]

lol, this is like the third time I have gotten the lecture.

well maybe thrash was defined for oldschoolers, but nowadays any emocore band calls themselves thrash, that is the problem I see.

 

[Wyvern]

lol, this is like the third time I have gotten the lecture.

well maybe thrash was defined for oldschoolers, but nowadays any emocore band calls themselves thrash, that is the problem I see.

Sorry didn't meant to lecture anyone. It's my feel because I am old school, but I discover thrash late in my metalhead lifetime. I didn't started with Metallica and Megadeth until 1992, and I discover most of the thrash bands I like now in the last 6 years.

As for the emo kids :Smug: , what you can do?

 

[dEaThToFaLsEmEtAl34]

I don't see what is wrong with that, they are building the thrasher identity, and not being retro, this is why emo has ruled over thrash for so long, because the real thrash identity is destroyed and emo has more tolarance, I would rather see a thrasher band with jeans rather than those ugly baggy black goth pants that new exodus wears.

It defines a genre that has been misunderstood for so long because it creates the right atmosphere.

Just because people wore them in the 80s doesnt mean that no one else can, its not an 80s thing anymore, its a thrasher thing, get with the times.

Yeah but that's still placing "image over substance".