The News Thread

[rms]

Thought if someone says I'll hit you or some immediate violence it was just self defense

 

[The Ozzman]

Thought if someone says I'll hit you or some immediate violence it was just self defense

Probably depends on the state legislature wherever you are.

Either way, it was definitely self defense

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Even in NYC, if you have a gun and threaten to shoot someone unprovoked while approaching them, you're probably going to be declared a valid shooting target. Only a few absolutely garbage states like Vermont have absolute duty to retreat.

 

[The Ozzman]

I thought in Vermont you could literally have a loaded rifle sitting in your backseat uncovered and nothing would happen to you unless Styx lied about that

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah but you can only shoot deer with it.

 

[The Ozzman]

Yeah but you can only shoot deer with it.

So much for their state motto then. Any gun law is unconstitutional anyway but these bootlicking libs don't care about that.

One less degenerate on the streets, great news.

Dude was probably a bully anyway and more than likely was abusive and controlling to his girlfriend if he was waiting for her to come out of that bar.

Ice-T said it best:

 

[Einherjar86]

Any gun law is unconstitutional anyway but these bootlicking libs don't care about that.

Well, to be convinced that I should care you first need to convince me that something being unconstitutional is automatically a bad thing.

 

[The Ozzman]

Well, to be convinced that I should care you first need to convince me that something being unconstitutional is automatically a bad thing.

Why something being unconstitutional is a bad thing: Because the 2nd Amendment ends with shall not be infringed. Any gun law passed is an infringement of this right by definition.

Now, I heard an interesting take from a podcast I listened to the other day that the judiciary is what makes the law and not the piece of paper itself (he was a South African attorney). Does that imply the Constitution should be rewritten from scratch?

 

[CiG]

Ein isn't a lib anyway.

 

[Einherjar86]

Why something being unconstitutional is a bad thing: Because the 2nd Amendment ends with shall not be infringed. Any gun law passed is an infringement of this right by definition.

This tells me why you think the second amendment specifically is a good thing; it doesn't explain why something being unconstitutional is de facto a bad thing.

For example, in 1919 the eighteenth amendment made it illegal to manufacture and sell alcohol within the U.S. So at that time, according to your logic, making/purchasing/possessing liquor was bad because it was unconstitutional.

My point is that the constitution changes, and laws change. Constitutionalism has nothing to do with it; I highly doubt you'd say that the eighteenth amendment was a good thing because it was constitutional. The real reason you like the second amendment isn't because it's constitutional, but because you like guns and think people should be allowed to own them no matter what. You tell yourself it's constitutional and good because it reinforces your personal values.

 

[Dak]

The 2nd amendment gets several justifications. One, the doomsday scenario - protection from government. Another, protection from common crime. Finally, the position that rather than needing justification for doing something, there must be extensive justification for prohibition.

 

[Dak]

http://reallifemag.com/show-tunes/

TL;DR: The mainstream music industry continues as a waste dump which people are content to wallow in.

 

[King Richard]

Gun, knife, bat, or even a weapon of opportunity, who gives a shit what it is. If you look at these types of situations from a high level and filter out all of the distractions, if you don't fuck with people or threaten them things like this won't happen. Fact.

 

[CiG]

How NBC ‘Killed’ Ronan Farrow’s Weinstein Exposé.

According to a television-industry insider familiar with Farrow’s NBC News project, however, “Farrow and his producer had been working this for 10 months. They had eight interviews on camera, with a mix of silhouette and not-silhouette—so eight women speaking. They had an NYPD audio tape, and they had enough for a story. And NBC did everything they could to delay it, complicate it, and ultimately Noah [Oppenheim] killed it. NBC shut it down.”

 

[HamburgerBoy]

shut it down

oy

 

[CiG]

 

[Dak]

Steal that from Stormfront?

 

[CiG]

They wish.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/8/31/17763462/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-criticism-fact-check

I half-agree with the article in that Ocasio-Cortez is experiencing disproportionate criticism, not only from Reps/conservatives but also her own party. They don't get all the reasons right though.

“This is a person not ready for prime time, certainly not ready for Congress,” the ever-quoted voice of the Washington establishment Norm Ornstein tweeted in response to her answer on a question about Israel. “She should stop campaigning & do a crash course on basics, including economics and foreign policy. Otherwise, she will stumble badly out of the blocks and do major damage. Early impressions hard to erase.”

Can't imagine why a Norm Ornstein doesn't want a strong independent woman not giving her unconditional support to the Jewish ethnostate.

EDIT: Meant to post this in Mort's thread but whatevs

 

[CiG]

She's a fucking dunce, I'd love to see her and Trump have a debate. It'd be the most entertaining thing to come out of America since Jerry Springer and To Catch a Predator.