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Dak
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Opportunity cost, man. Opportunity cost. Regardless of the rhetoric, abortion is very important to these girls, not some academic exercise about viability or life.
Einherjar86
Active Member
Of course it's important, but that doesn't make them "pro-abortion." I think you're misinterpreting their performed eagerness. At the very least, all you can say is that it's a matter of interpretation.
rms
Active Member
How do you define pro abortion? Seems clearly that a large chunk of the population treats abortion like a human right , to which I would argue makes them pro abortion
Einherjar86
Active Member
It’s the right to have an abortion. It’s pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I also believe in people’s right to own firearms, although I’m not pro-shooting people. In cases when it has to be done, it has to be done. But that doesn’t mean people want to do it.
rms
Active Member
Einherjar86
Active Member
Dak
mentat
Having a gun =/= shooting a clump of cells. Getting an abortion = doing something to a clump of cells.
Einherjar86
Active Member
Right to have an abortion =/= loving killing a clump of cells.
Right to own a gun =/= loving shooting a clump of cells.
Right to own a gun =/= loving shooting a clump of cells.
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
I beg to differ. You have an entire hashtag dedicated to normalizing and celebrating the practice, called #ShoutYourAbortion. Not sure why anybody would take issue with being called pro-abortion, unless deep down they think it's a dodgy practice or something terrible to be associated with.
What do you call activists who walk around with pro-abortion slogans on their clothes other than pro-abortion?
Dak
mentat
You can shoot things besides clumps of cells. You can't abort inanimate objects.
Einherjar86
Active Member
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CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
That's lazy and ironically rather imprecise in terms of language. There is evidently a not insignificant portion of the pro-choice side who are pro-abortion. It's not just a mass of moderates.
Einherjar86
Active Member
Dak
mentat
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
You don't think anybody is pro-abortion, I give a specific example of activists who are pro-abortion and you call them pro-choice. That's lazy as shit. I guess anybody who doesn't want a total ban on abortion is also pro-choice in this wacky imprecise world you inhabit.
Einherjar86
Active Member
CiG
Approximately Infinite Universe
"Activists with pro-abortion slogans" is pretty specific. #ShoutYourAbortion is also pretty specific. Also all you have to do is search on Twitter to see people who self-identify as pro-abortion.
Question; why would people who aren't for a total ban on abortion not be called pro-choice? I'm curious. Am I pro-choice? Is someone who wants all but the first trimester banned pro-choice?
Einherjar86
Active Member
Pro-abortion is the term I take issue with. An article using the phrase doesn’t prove anything.
Abortions can still be allowed without the patient being allowed to choose it, if they’re only allowed in cases of extreme medical emergency and the patient is delirious. Being okay with some abortion circumstances doesn’t automatically translate into pro-choice.
rms
Active Member
this is that chick that comes up in that search and I think this is a sizeable minority that holds this view. They are actively attempting to remove the "shame" from abortions and treat abortions like calling AAA, sometimes it happens!
at this point you're going to have to be specific on what it entails to be pro-abortion because it seems you're just denying it's humanly possible, outside of some dude running around in the middle of night finding pregnant women and aborting their fetuses.
