The News Thread

[Einherjar86]

Look at those kids, not exaggerating or trying to get a rise out of anyone at all...

 

[Dak]

Look at those kids, not exaggerating or trying to get a rise out of anyone at all...

Opportunity cost, man. Opportunity cost. Regardless of the rhetoric, abortion is very important to these girls, not some academic exercise about viability or life.

 

[Einherjar86]

Of course it's important, but that doesn't make them "pro-abortion." I think you're misinterpreting their performed eagerness. At the very least, all you can say is that it's a matter of interpretation.

 

[rms]

How do you define pro abortion? Seems clearly that a large chunk of the population treats abortion like a human right , to which I would argue makes them pro abortion

 

[Einherjar86]

It’s the right to have an abortion. It’s pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I also believe in people’s right to own firearms, although I’m not pro-shooting people. In cases when it has to be done, it has to be done. But that doesn’t mean people want to do it.

 

[rms]

I would argue that you are pro shooting people

 

[Einherjar86]

That’s where our semantics differ I guess. Anyway, I still don’t see it as “pro-abortion.”

 

[Dak]

Having a gun =/= shooting a clump of cells. Getting an abortion = doing something to a clump of cells.

 

[Einherjar86]

Right to have an abortion =/= loving killing a clump of cells.

Right to own a gun =/= loving shooting a clump of cells.

 

[CiG]

Also, nobody's "pro-abortion."

I beg to differ. You have an entire hashtag dedicated to normalizing and celebrating the practice, called #ShoutYourAbortion. Not sure why anybody would take issue with being called pro-abortion, unless deep down they think it's a dodgy practice or something terrible to be associated with.

What do you call activists who walk around with pro-abortion slogans on their clothes other than pro-abortion?

 

[Dak]

Right to have an abortion =/= loving killing a clump of cells.

Right to own a gun =/= loving shooting a clump of cells.

You can shoot things besides clumps of cells. You can't abort inanimate objects.

 

[Einherjar86]

You can shoot things besides clumps of cells. You can't abort inanimate objects.

It doesn’t matter that guns have more than one use. All that matters is that they can be used to shoot someone.

I beg to differ. You have an entire hashtag dedicated to normalizing and celebrating the practice, called #ShoutYourAbortion. Not sure why anybody would take issue with being called pro-abortion, unless deep down they think it's a dodgy practice or something terrible to be associated with.

I take issue with people thinking I somehow get excited about abortions, i.e. “All women should have an abortion, they’re great!”

What do you call activists who walk around with pro-abortion slogans on their clothes other than pro-abortion?

I call them pro-choice.

 

[CiG]

That's lazy and ironically rather imprecise in terms of language. There is evidently a not insignificant portion of the pro-choice side who are pro-abortion. It's not just a mass of moderates.

 

[Einherjar86]

I don’t know what “that’s” is referring to. I think I used pretty clear language.

 

[Dak]

It doesn’t matter that guns have more than one use. All that matters is that they can be used to shoot someone.

It does when we're talking about single use vs multiple use.

 

[CiG]

I don’t know what “that’s” is referring to. I think I used pretty clear language.

You don't think anybody is pro-abortion, I give a specific example of activists who are pro-abortion and you call them pro-choice. That's lazy as shit. I guess anybody who doesn't want a total ban on abortion is also pro-choice in this wacky imprecise world you inhabit.

 

[Einherjar86]

You don't think anybody is pro-abortion, I give a specific example of activists who are pro-abortion and you call them pro-choice. That's lazy as shit. I guess anybody who doesn't want a total ban on abortion is also pro-choice in this wacky imprecise world you inhabit.

You didn’t give me a specific example of anything. You gave me an example of your opinion on something. Got plenty of those.

It does when we're talking about single use vs multiple use.

Or maybe it does when guns can kill both unicorns AND leprechauns.

 

[CiG]

You didn’t give me a specific example of anything. You gave me an example of your opinion on something. Got plenty of those.

"Activists with pro-abortion slogans" is pretty specific. #ShoutYourAbortion is also pretty specific. Also all you have to do is search on Twitter to see people who self-identify as pro-abortion.

Question; why would people who aren't for a total ban on abortion not be called pro-choice? I'm curious. Am I pro-choice? Is someone who wants all but the first trimester banned pro-choice?

 

[Einherjar86]

"Activists with pro-abortion slogans" is pretty specific.

Pro-abortion is the term I take issue with. An article using the phrase doesn’t prove anything.

Abortions can still be allowed without the patient being allowed to choose it, if they’re only allowed in cases of extreme medical emergency and the patient is delirious. Being okay with some abortion circumstances doesn’t automatically translate into pro-choice.

 

[rms]

I am PRO abortion. I am FOR abortion. If you are pregnant and do not want to be pregnant, I believe you should actively and without any shame definitely consider abortion. Abortion is not a dirty-bad thing we tolerate as a necessity. Abortion is a valid choice. Always.

this is that chick that comes up in that search and I think this is a sizeable minority that holds this view. They are actively attempting to remove the "shame" from abortions and treat abortions like calling AAA, sometimes it happens!

Pro-abortion is the term I take issue with. An article using the phrase doesn’t prove anything.

at this point you're going to have to be specific on what it entails to be pro-abortion because it seems you're just denying it's humanly possible, outside of some dude running around in the middle of night finding pregnant women and aborting their fetuses.