The News Thread

[CiG]

We're all quite predictable in here, lets save ourselves a headache and all just shut the fuck up.

 

[tagradh]

The only Republican I can recall talking sense any time recently is Arnie.

 

[Dak]

Well I didn't vote for Trudeau so whatever.

Also tbh I'll be disappointed if you guys don't get that Bernie guy in. He seems to be the least "batshit fucking insane" of all of them.

Bernie's ideas failed nearly a century ago. Pretty insane to me. He's more of a Nazi than any of the candidates, although Trump certainly flirts with some national socialist stuff.

 

[Matt]

It's either gonna be Sanders or Clinton. GOP does not have a real candidate.

 

[Mort Divine]

Bernie's ideas failed nearly a century ago. Pretty insane to me. He's more of a Nazi than any of the candidates, although Trump certainly flirts with some national socialist stuff.

what

 

[King Richard]

Bernie's ideas failed nearly a century ago. Pretty insane to me. He's more of a Nazi than any of the candidates, although Trump certainly flirts with some national socialist stuff.

 

[Dak]

Nazi stands for national socialism. Gassing Jews was only a small part of the package and specific to Hitler's variant. Lrn2history.

 

[Mort Divine]

It also has literally nothing to do with socialism? Not that Sanders does either.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Nazi stands for national socialism.

You're not reading between the lines there. Nationalist Socialism describes it much better. Sanders is not a nationalist.

 

[Dak]

I beg to differ.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Then you should Lrn2history

 

[Dak]

Then you should Lrn2history

I disagree with both you and Mort. Sanders is a nationalist and is pushing socialism as much as he can get away with (ty Mort for the NTS fallacy in the making), and the Nazis were socialist. The former isn't really history, and the latter is a fact.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421369/bernie-sanders-national-socialism

Edit: I know there's been some really brain dead rebuttals to this piece, and frankly the piece is low quality, but it gets the point across.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany.[69] However, a majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as being a far-right form of politics.[70] When asked in an interview whether he and the Nazis were "bourgeois right-wing" as alleged by their opponents, Hitler responded that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism."

Edit: In sort of checkbox mode, let us show the similarities between Trump, Bernie, Hitler, and Mussolini:

Protectionism/Nationalism
Gimmedats
"Strong military"

I can't find the link, but iirc Bernie has also been semi open to national mandatory service in the form of military or civil works programs. Black boots and brown shirts.

 

[Dak]

I found the platform. By my count, Sanders matches 15 of the 25. That's higher than any other politician.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

 

[Mort Divine]

Its literally not a NTS thing. Sanders is not an advocate of socialism. Socialism requires the means of production rest solely in the workers hands.

EDIT: The Nazis were not socialist. Jesus, fucking...wow.

 

[Dak]

Doubling down on the No True Scotsman. Fine: there has never been a socialist country, much like never a communist or capitalist country - your dream remains unscathed . Back to the point: Whatever you want to call National Socialism, and whatever you want to call whatever Bernie is serving up, they overlap considerably. Bernie is a nationalist: Nationalism involves economic protectionism and/or a strong/active military. he's on record supporting both.

 

[CiG]

I don't know how I feel about Sanders and whether he is a nationalist, socialist, Nazi, whatever.

I definitely want to hear how Nazism isn't socialism though, just saying "it's not because wow it's obviously not" is weak, I'm genuinely interested to hear how it's not socialism.

 

[Dak]

Internet progressives appear to be under the impression that "wow" is an intensely intellectual rebuttal. I never hear it off the internet except from college girls in response to some typical college girl bullshit.

 

[CiG]

Sprinkled with a heavy dose of "like" ha ha.

 

[Dak]

Sprinkled with a heavy dose of "like" ha ha.

Unfortunately "like" has worked its way into nearly everyone's vocabulary, including my own. I do make an effort to control it though. I'm hoping that Uptalk doesn't make the same inroad.

 

[Dak]

Actual news: Russia doing the US thang in a diff ME country:

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151208/1031410146/russia-syria-moves.html

In an attempt to predict Russia’s further moves in Syria, US diplomacy expert Robert Farley has put forward what he considers “Russia’s five next big moves in Syria”, which are set to come in the nearest days or weeks; however, as it turns out, the first four are already very active on the ground.

It's not just "selective hearing":

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...task-may-leave-you-temporarily-deaf-study.htm

A new study in the United Kingdom revealed that concentrating and placing undivided attention into a visual task can make a person temporarily deaf to sounds coming from their environment. Experts at the University College London called this deficit "inattentional deafness."

In a study featured in the Journal of Neuroscience, UCL researchers explained that a person's sense of vision and hearing are located in a shared and limited region of the brain called the association cortex. Because of the limitation in processing capacity, the brain is forced to choose between the two senses and fails to multi-task.

"In order to hear, we don't just need our ears to be operating; we need our brain to respond to the sound,"said UCL Professor Nilli Lavie, co-author of the study.