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What do you guys think of energy drinks?

Now, I'm not talking about Redbull or Monster! (Sugar :puke: )

I'm talkin' 5 Hour Energy and Redline.

I've been drinking these two for 2 months now and holy shit does it give you a boost!

Their full of B12 and C. Around like 300% which is insane. I really don't think it's too healthy but it doesnt hurt.

Redline contains...

Proprietary Blend:
-Caffeine Citrate
-Caffeine Anhydrous
-Evoburn
-N-acetyl-tyrosine
-Yerbe Mate
-Green Tea
-5-******y-L-tryptop
-CAMP
-Vinpocetine
-Yohimbine HCL --

WTF?

Why is hy droxy censored?

******y
 
Wow, that's freakin' wierd. :guh:

i would assume its because of the prescription spam that came on the board a while ago so they probably filtered out h y d r o c o d o n e and o x y which they re probably spamming about legal prescriptions for.

and on topic, i find joining a gym is actually not as good as working out at home. i have a powerblock which takes up no space and goes fairly high weight since i have the modified handle and a treadmill and an excercise ball which i all got for fairly cheap and it saves a trip to the gym all the time and you can work out and do almost any excercise whenever you want. i still go to the gym a few times to work with a trainer to keep my form in shape but at home working out is much nicer not dealing with tons of people and the machines which have been touched by everyone and are dirty and sometimes very old, especially during the winter when its easy to get sick using machines a lot of other sick people have used.
 
^ I don't work out at home because there is too many distractions. Besides, my gym (which is on an Air Force base) is very large and is not crowded most of the time.
 
can anyone give me some info on creatine here? i read on some sites and stuff and it sounds like its not bad for you but helps a lot for lifting. could you buy it in a store and would it be safe unlike steroids?
 
Fuck this bullshit.

Just get where you need to be. fuck, yea i'm DRUNK AS FUCK BUT GUESS WHAT this shit is important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets get goin"

I swear to god ill fuckin shit a log
 
I swear to god ill fuckin shit a log

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can anyone give me some info on creatine here? i read on some sites and stuff and it sounds like its not bad for you but helps a lot for lifting. could you buy it in a store and would it be safe unlike steroids?

creatine is a natural amino acid found in the body. It is consistently proven to improve srength and muscularity by a significant percentage. There are no side effects or health risks whatsoever, and you will keep the gains that you make while on the creatine assuming you continue lifting heavy and eating a proper diet.

Some studies have shown that creatine supplementation increases both total and fat-free body mass, though it is difficult to say how much of this is due to the training effect. Since body mass gains of about 1 kg can occur in a week's time, many studies suggest that the gain is simply due to greater water retention inside the muscle cells. However, studies into the long-term effect of creatine supplementation suggest that body mass gains cannot be explained by increases in intracellular water alone. In the longer term, the increase in total body water is reported to be proportional to the weight gains, which means that the percentage of total body water is not significantly changed. The magnitude of the weight gains during training over a period of several weeks argue against the water-retention theory.

Creatine is an amino acid that is normally produced in the body from arginine, glycine and methionine. Creatine plays a vital role in cellular energy production as creatinephosphate (phosphocreatine) in regenerating adenosine triphosphate (ATP) in skeletal muscle. Without ATP, muscle contraction is not possible. Oral administration of creatine increases muscle stores and may increase muscle strength and improve exercise performance. In the diet,creatine is found in meat and fish - although cooking destroys most of it. Creatine claims to increase energy, power output, and enchances muscle size and strenght.


A significant gain in physical performance in high-intensity exercise has been shown with creatine doses of 20 to 30 g/day, but more recent research is indicating that similar performance benefits are possible with much lower doses in the range of 2-5 grams/day though benefits may take longer to be noticed).

Taking very large doses of creatine daily seemed to increase the strength of muscular dystrophypatients' muscles by about 10 percent. Although that may be considered a relatively small gain it may be very important to that person who can now pick up a glass of water. Ten grams of
creatine per day for 5 days followed by 5 grams per day for another week have produced increases in muscle strength in the legs, hands and feet of patients with muscular dystrophy.Such patients usually have lower creatine levels than healthy people, so boosting muscle stores may help augment cellular energy production and support muscular contraction.

The most common regimen for creatine supplementation follows a two-phase cycle with a 5-10 day loading phase (20-25 g/day) followed by a variable length maintenance phase (2-5 g/day)to maintain muscle saturation. It is unclear, however, whether the loading phase is actually
needed to achieve the same end result. Creatine absorption appears to be enhanced when the supplement is taken with a high-carbohydrate drink such as fruit juice.

Purchasing creatine involves three basic choices:

1. 100 percent pure creatine monohydrate - It's a white powder(not unlike baking soda) that is basically tasteless and odorless.You can mix it in water, juice,protein shake, etc. Do not,however, mix creatine with a citrus drink. The combination of creatine and a citrus drink may result in some
breakdown of the product, converting creatine into creatinine,hich is useless to your body.

2. Creatine and sugar (premixed) - A 1996 study showed that ingesting a carbohydrate solution with creatine promoted a 60 percent greater increase in total creatine concentrations in the muscle, compared with taking creatine alone.(14) Sixty percent is a big difference.However, the subjects who took the creatine and carbohydrates were pounding back 93g of carbs four times per day for five days. 93g of carbohydrates is an additional 1,488 calories per day, or 7,440 calories for the five-day experiment. Any way you look at it, that is a good way to get fat. So, if you are going to follow the protocol of this study and suck back four sugar shakes per day for five days, that's where I would leave it. In other words, if you are not concerned about how big your gut gets in a week's time, and you want to load creatine, this is a proven method. After the loading period is over, if you wanted to continue with this type of
drink, I would reserve the 93g of sugary goodness for your post-workout meal only. Post-workout is when your muscles are begging for sugar like a crack addict looking for a fix. If one were to critically compare this study to commercial creatine premixes,most supplement manufacturers would fall short on the amount of sugar in one serving. The sugar increases insulin, which transports creatine into the muscles. For now, suffice it to say I have tried many premixed creatine drinks and can say with a great degree of certainty that they do work better than creatine
alone. Like I said, though, if you want to follow this protocol,reserve this drink reserved for a post-workout shake,and you won't have to worry about bustin' your gut.


3. Creatine and insulin mimicking agents - Agents that mimic insulin, such as Alpha-lipoic acid, have an effect similar to sugar on your body. When you consume high levels of simple sugars,your insulin goes through the roof. The insulin is responsible for getting nutrients (i.e. creatine) to the muscles. So these products theoretically punch up your insulin without the 93g of gut-busting sugar. The concept is fantastic, and I believe they work. A 1998 study confirmed that "insulin can enhance muscle creatine accumulation in humans, but only when present atphysiologically high or supraphysiological concentrations."(15) What this means is high insulin levels need to exist to enhance creatine's effects.Using insulin mimickers instead of sugar is an area moving to the forefront of "making creatine better."
 
Creatine definitely helps me do a few more reps. It has a noticeable effect on my strength, that remains for a while even after I stop taking it.

One thing I need to add: I don't understand why people still take creatine monohydrate when there are non-monohydrtate forumals that don't cause bloating available. Creatine monohydrate bloats the fuck out of me, to the point where my abs fade, and I lose a lot of the definition in my face. In short, creatine monohydrate will make you look like a fatass, even if you are ripped, because of the massive water retention it causes. I take a non-monohydrate forumula (containing creatine titrate, I believe), and it causes no subcutatnous water retention. So unless you want to get all bloated up like a fucking blowfish, avoid creatine monohydrate at all costs!
 
Hello all, today i bought my first pair of running shoes and HOLY SHIT man what a difference!

To think I was running with flat foot campus adidas.:lol:

The air/bounce is amazing, yes i know, welcome to the year 2007, heh
 
My strongest flat bench yesterday at 330 lbs. Im proud of myself but I should be a bit higher considering Ive been at it for 8yrs.now. A good day at the gym regardless.

Id post pics but dont want to intimidate Dave too much:heh:
 
That's how much I can do. Well, 335, which is three 45 pound plates plus a 10 on each side. And I can only get it 1 1/2 times. This was a couple months ago, and I probably can't do it anymore, since I've been cutting (ie trying to get super ripped) the last couple months.
 
Dedication brotha'...dedication.
4-5 days week only 45min-hour at time...but HEAVY.

Recently this has been working for me so try it if your looking to get bigger and stronger. You'll notice drastic improvements...and quickly.(w/ healthy dose of Kaizen Creatine)

MON- Back/Tri's
TUES- Chest/Bi's
WED-Off for much needed rest
THURS-Shoulders and Traps/Shrugs
FRI- Bi's and Tri's HEAVY (superset last set of each)
SAT- Legs and Squats

dont be afraid to switch it up every now and then. Improvising can really help. Ex: every other week "shock" your arms by doing back/bi's and chest/tri's if you get my drift.
 
I gotcha man. I just started lifting heavy(for me) and did bench,curls and back press.

Problem is that was two days ago and my chest is still killing me.
 

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