Dreadful
When Man& Machine Collide
Emperor is Norwegian...If this were top ten classic norwegian metal albums, for sure in the nightside eclipse would be there. Possibly #1 for me.
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Slaughter of the Soul was the pinnacle of nothing. It just saw ATG going from a fairly innovative and compositionally brilliant band to some watered down pseudo-thrash band. The majority of music that the album inspired or paved the way for was crap as well. Unless you like all the At the Gates worship that goes on in metal (well really its more SotS worship, since all the ripoffs only seem to have heard that At the Gates album).Land Of Grey And Pink said:im a jackass for picking slaughter of the soul? Slaughter of the soul is arguably the pinnacle album for modern swedish metal as most know it...as good as with fear i kiss the burning darkness is...to say that is their classic album over slaughter is just neglecting the statistics. id pick gardens of grief over burning darkness if we were just going for older album validity.
ThePhilosopher said:Slaughter of the Soul was the pinnacle of nothing. It just saw ATG going from a fairly innovative and compositionally brilliant band to some watered down pseudo-thrash band. The majority of music that the album inspired or paved the way for was crap as well. Unless you like all the At the Gates worship that goes on in metal (well really its more SotS worship, since all the ripoffs only seem to have heard that At the Gates album).
It just truly angers me when people worship Slaughter of the Soul so much as if it was something groundbreaking. The Red in the Sky is Ours, Gardens of Grief, and With Fear I Kiss the Burning Darkness are all better albums by a landslide, and no one ever talks about them.
Caelum Adustum said:1-10. Dawn - Slaughtersun (Crown of the Triarchy)
yourdeadgroom said:Angela has nothing to do with it. I can't stand Johan's vocals, IMO he ruined their first 3 albums. I like Angela's vocals very much. The problem is, WOS has too many run-of-the-mill songs (and yes, it does have about 4 top notch songs), the album as a whole loses momentum half way through, and IMHO the Amott brothers appear to have stopped trying when it comes to soloing, they now just rely on generic leads rather than doing anything interesting. Black Earth atleast has some fire to it.
Innovative, melodic, and technical? Hmm, with those criteria, lets evaluate a few songs.Land Of Grey And Pink said:Watered down? Slaughter still contains some of the most innovative, melodic, and even technical death metal riffs you could find at the time....thrash influence aside....death metal evolved from thrash anyway, so that argument hardly holds water in my eyes. Besides, its very hard to have an elitest standpoint on anything swedish and melodic like this, so i dont quite see what exactly youre arguing. Theres people here voting "corporation 187, and hypocrisy" albums as being classics...so i think you have bigger fish to fry in the complaint department.
ThePhilosopher said:Innovative, melodic, and technical? Hmm, with those criteria, lets evaluate a few songs.
"Cold" off of Slaughter of the Soul vs. "The Break of Autumn" from WFIKTBD. Oh yeah, "Cold" is so much technical, melodic, and innovative.
The keyword here is "GAYLORD"!!Land Of Grey And Pink said:the keyword here is "CLASSIC"!!
wages of sin sucks. its not that i dont like angela, i think shes great, its just a very boring album. and 'web of lies' is god awful.Dem0n0fTheFall4 said:Why does everyone talk shot on WOS, it's a fucking great album with amazing songs, all of these too 'tr00' arch enemy fans need to get over angela