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[KoichCPA]

Answer? Who the fuck are you, Eddie Mcguire?

I worked at Central Station doing shift work on the platforms etc. for 6 years before I moved upstairs to the computer section.

I had to drag those Heroin addicted fucks out of the toilets, clean up their needles, their shit and urine on the floor, and empty the needles into medical waste stuff so we could dispose of them. Have you ever had to move one of them? You cannot reason with them. They arent sanitary to say the least, their needles are on the floor, their urine and shit is everywhere and how the fuck do I know if he has Hepatitis or Aids or something? Yet we still had to kick them and prod them to try and get rid of them because obviously you cant have half dead people lying in the toilets (and even in the urinal trough once, with people still going to the toilet... Thats Sydney people for you).

I know how easy it is to catch Hepatitis because they made us do a course on it before we became station assistants. Ive seen more Heroin and drug addicts in 6 years than hopefully all of you will see in your life put together. They are disgusting and really dangerous, despite being out of it on the Heroin.

We always had to watch the bins we were emptying (this was before they got rid of bins because of the terrorist thing) all the time because we didnt want to get pricked by needles, we had one guy die on the concourse due to a drug overdose, even though the Station Master tried to save his life with resucitation. Ive lost count of the number of times the ambulance was called because someone had oded on a train or on a platform. Or that we were called to go remove needles from the trains.

I hope someone close to you gets addicted to herion, maybe then you can see it from my point of view. They are still people, they still have people who care about them and want them off it. It's a fucking chemical addiction, I can guarentee you they regret taking the first time. You seriously know shit about these people, you had clean up after them. Good fucking work, I'm glad you've had to do something you didn't want to do. It would have been good for you.

You think trent trivialising their problems, you are the one who is the trivial fuckwit about it. You think they choose to have the next hit, you are so fucking naive. You have no life experiance whatsoever. You a predjidiced,naive,narrow minded peice of shit. I want something bad to happen to you personally, so you can fucking understand what it's like. If you actually had any friends in real life you could understand what it's like to lose one to an addiction, to see how they spiral down, but theres always that brief period where they are still there old selves.

You need to fucking wake up to yourself before you are a lonley old man with alot of cd's.

 

[spawn]

They dont have to, last time I checked there were people who got off it. Stop making excuses for them "Oooh its tough to stop". THEY KNEW THAT WHEN THEY STARTED IT.

 

[KoichCPA]

You need to look at the people before they started it. They are generally depressed and don't care about that when they start. They want escapsim and it provides, condemning them does not help their situation at all.

Spawny, you don't know what you are talking about, shut the fuck up

 

[spawn]

I hope someone close to you gets addicted to herion, maybe then you can see it from my point of view. They are still people, they still have people who care about them and want them off it. It's a fucking chemical addiction, I can guarentee you they regret taking the first time. You seriously know shit about these people, you had clean up after them. Good fucking work, I'm glad you've had to do something you didn't want to do. It would have been good for you.

You think trent trivialising their problems, you are the one who is the trivial fuckwit about it. You think they choose to have the next hit, you are so fucking naive. You have no life experiance whatsoever. You a predjidiced,naive,narrow minded peice of shit. I want something bad to happen to you personally, so you can fucking understand what it's like. If you actually had any friends in real life you could understand what it's like to lose one to an addiction, to see how they spiral down, but theres always that brief period where they are still there old selves.

You need to fucking wake up to yourself before you are a lonley old man with alot of cd's.

So no Heroin addicts knew the consequences of their actions? Theres no stuff on tv warning about drugs? You dont get told it in school? Your parents dont tell you? Its all been kept on the quiet has it and these poor people got caught up in it not knowing what they were getting in to?

These people do not have cancer or some other horrible disease thats killing them and they have no choice in the matter. They do it to themselves. Repeatedly, and with full knowledge of what its doing to them. How about you ask the cancer patients what they think of some stupid dick throwing his life away while they lie there in a pain you cant even imagine wondering why they are dying by chance and someone is doing it by choice.

 

[KoichCPA]

Read my post underneath it ro clarify it for you.

You just sit there in your fucking big house in the suburbs with your humble little upbringing spouting out the limited shit you know about the subject. I seriously doubt you have ever had rough time in your life at all.

An addiction may as well be a disease, it's hard enough to get rid of.

 

[spawn]

I hope someone close to you gets addicted to herion, maybe then you can see it from my point of view.

I want something bad to happen to you personally

You know, you really are a nasty, horrible person. Regardless of what my stance is on people after they do something like Heroin to themselves of their own volition, id never wish it on someone else.

 

[KoichCPA]

If you knew someone personally who went through it, I can guarentee you you would be standing on my side of the fence right now.

You have only seen people you don't know, and you have only seen them at one point of it.

You would walk past at least 100 people a day on herion and you wouldn't even realise. Herion addicts can hold down high paying jobs, they can wear suits and ties Spawny, yes you heard me.

You only see the end of the spiral for some, not all of them end up like that, only the poor ones.

Wake up spawny, welcome to the real world

 

[KoichCPA]

You know, you really are a nasty, horrible person. Regardless of what my stance is on people after they do something like Heroin to themselves of their own volition, id never wish it on someone else.

It's the only way to get you understand what it's like. You are so narrowminded however you'd probably call your own mother a junkie and spit on her.

 

[spawn]

Why are you blaming me for the fact that people are stupid? They knew the consequences and they still did it. Its not a disease, you dont walk along the street and someone coughs Heroin addiction on you. They gave it to themselves. Its an addiction they knew could kill them and ruin their life and THEY STILL DID IT.

 

[Sydo]

spawn, you're missing the point. We live in a western society, where it's perfectly acceptable to pass the blame for your own actions onto someone else.

 

[spawn]

Seemingly so I dont like the fact that people are wasting their lives AND ruining their families while they are at it, but they made their choice.

 

[KoichCPA]

yes, and thats a mistake, everytime they do it afterwoulds they have such self loathe about themselves. It's not as simple as just stopping, thats what you don't understand.

eroin Withdrawal symptoms are some of the nastiest an addict can experience compared to Withdrawal from any other drug. The individual who has become physically as well as psychologically dependent on heroin will experience heroin Withdrawal with an abrupt discontinuation of use or even a decrease in their daily amount of heroin taken. The onset of heroin Withdrawal symptoms begin six to eight hours after the last dose is administrated. Major heroin withdrawal symptoms peak between 48 and 72 hours after the last dose of heroin and subdue after about one week. The symptoms of heroin withdrawal produced are similar to a bad case of the flu.

Symptoms of Heroin withdrawal include but are not limited to:
dilated pupils
piloerection (goose bumps)
watery eyes
runny nose
yawning
loss of appetite
tremors
panic
chills
nausea
muscle cramps
insomnia
stomach cramps
diarrhea
vomiting
shaking
chills or profuse sweating
irritability
jitterness
violent urges to get the drug
hallucinations

It doesn't stop there either, oh no, then they prescribe them Methodone. Which binds the same opiate resistor in the brain as herion does, only it's more socially acceptable.

It's prescribed a week at a time, they still have the same urges as herion, only now, it's readily availble in methodone for a cheaper price. By the end of the week they have run out of methodone, and have to wait for their next prescription to be filled.
The purpose is to slowly wein them off after the initial denying them period, but unless it is closely watched by doctors at all times(see 24/7) it just doesn't work
It's not just as easy as giving it up.

 

[spawn]

I know whats easier than giving up. Not doing it in the first place. The fact that its hard to give up means what? I never said it wasnt, seeing the states they end up in is evidence enough of that.Am I supposed to see the process they go through to get off it and change my mind?

They started it themselves, they chose to do it, despite the copious amounts of evidence showing why they shouldnt. They ruined their life and probably the life of their family. Selfish and utterly stupid, nothing more.

I cant keep writing the same thing over and over, I think I made my position on this crystal clear.

 

[KoichCPA]

Yes, but your position is that of an uninformed arsehole.

As I said previously, you have look at the reasons as to why they got on it to better understand it. No one does herion to be cool.

 

[Sydo]

The choice not to start is very simple.

 

[KoichCPA]

It's a very complicated issue, that can't be dealt with people like you taking a simple approuch.

Until you people get over the stigma that every herion addict is a scummy cunt who takes up valuble ambulances, the problem won't be fixed.

They are people, i have my doubts about spawny being one.

 

[Spiff]

People who choose to do drugs are idiots. Once they become addicted, though, they should be helped no matter what.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

 

[KoichCPA]

thankyou spiff.

I was never saying I agree with people starting, but it's their choice. I respect that. Addicts hate it like nothing else once they realise they are addicted, they want get off it but the light at the end of their tunnel is almost non-existant.

 

[Spiff]

Spawny is just someone who hates anyone on a lower moral level than he is. He hates drug addicts and doesn't believe that they should be helped, he hates anyone who has committed a crime and thinks they should be executed without even attempting a) rehabilitation or b) letting them live with the crime for the rest of the lives. In fact, I think he hates anyone that isn't him.

He's full of hate, that kid.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

 

[KoichCPA]

Exactly, he is sheltered by his mummy.