Oh yeh, i also think alot of the songs on the Odyssey are kind of thought of as filler-ish material, when in my opinion the only track bordering on filler material is Incantations (although this is still cool). The Turning and King of Terrors have really complex elements, which you sometimes dont hear due to the bass and keys being far back in the mix. Some of the bass work on the turning is intricate to the extreme, and michael pinnela just kicks ass on king of terrors. I think these two tracks are very underrated.