Unsatisfied by sm57 on guitar cab

[JamesNorman]

Re-20 give me a better tone last time i used one than the 57 did.

 

[Let it burn...]

I use a tbone rm700 (fathead style ribbon) with the sm57 for some extra grind and it kicks ass when I need more brutal and grinding guitar tones (converge/doomriders stuff)

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Maybe a c 414?
Lasse already recorded georgeous tone with it

 

[PhilTheBeard]

i swear to god you are the only person who lives tue madsen more then i do, BUT FUCK YES DO WANT MADSEN TONE

Charlie lives the tue madsen very well.

 

[Skinny Viking]

another vote for the 421

 

[::XeS::]

I did a little experiment today. I reamped the new Ola's song with a single sm57 aiming the junction...tipycal edgy sound I don't like (but it could be this cab that enphatize the problem).
So I tried an eq on my guitar bus and I get a decent sound, at least closer to what I like. I boosted pretty hard the mids (1KHz +7dB, 4khz +4dB) and the sound become very organic but no more edgy and thin.
It's very weird I have to boost the mids like that because I use a 6505+ and as you know, it's a pretty mids heavy amp and on this reamp I set the mids at 6.
It's an example:
No eq: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1436721/Guitars_NoEq.mp3
Eq: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1436721/Guitars_Eq.mp3

The tone is far from awesome, but it gives the idea of what I mean. The no_eq sample is edgy and "dry" in some kind of way, when the eq sample is probably too much mid heavy but it's no more sterile. Anyway I don't like to boost like this my tracks because I prefer to get the tone from the source so...I think I need a mid heavy mic at least I can get the tone I like without put mids at 15 on my 6505

 

[Glenn Fricker]

beyer m201 (!!),

I find it a little dull on snare, but I'll definitley give it a shot on a cab. Thanks for the tip.



+1 on the MD421. Pairs up quite nice with a 57.

 

[John_C]

I did a little experiment today. I reamped the new Ola's song with a single sm57 aiming the junction...tipycal edgy sound I don't like (but it could be this cab that enphatize the problem).
So I tried an eq on my guitar bus and I get a decent sound, at least closer to what I like. I boosted pretty hard the mids (1KHz +7dB, 4khz +4dB) and the sound become very organic but no more edgy and thin.
It's very weird I have to boost the mids like that because I use a 6505+ and as you know, it's a pretty mids heavy amp and on this reamp I set the mids at 6.
It's an example:
No eq: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1436721/Guitars_NoEq.mp3
Eq: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1436721/Guitars_Eq.mp3

The tone is far from awesome, but it gives the idea of what I mean. The no_eq sample is edgy and "dry" in some kind of way, when the eq sample is probably too much mid heavy but it's no more sterile. Anyway I don't like to boost like this my tracks because I prefer to get the tone from the source so...I think I need a mid heavy mic at least I can get the tone I like without put mids at 15 on my 6505

you have a serious noise problem

 

[ahjteam]

you have a serious noise problem

sounds like a ground loop problem

 

[joeymusicguy]

i hate micing cabs. sounds like shit.

 

[arv_foh]

Never heard about these Heil PR30 but they seems very appreciated...anyone has some sample of them on metal guitars?
I'm looking also on some ADK mics (expecially the s-51), they was used on several metal album, but I can't find some decent samples to check them.

I have a rock PR30 sample but not a metal sample. They are my go to mic for guitars, for both live and studio.

 

[::XeS::]

you have a serious noise problem

Yeah I know...ground loop.

 

[::XeS::]

I have a rock PR30 sample but not a metal sample. They are my go to mic for guitars, for both live and studio.

It would be cool to listen something, also if it's not metal

 

[arv_foh]

It would be cool to listen something, also if it's not metal

http://www.myspace.com/leviathan_audio

Song 4 on the player, "Kiss From A Rose"

the PR30 was also used on vocals for this song

"Break You Down" live multitrack was PR30 on guitar, "Think" live multitrack was PR30 on guitar, those are both live recordings but you'll get the idea

 

[::XeS::]

Thank you very much. PR30 seems not bad at all. Did you ever try ADK mics?

 

[John_C]

i hate micing cabs. sounds like shit.

hehe

 

[Djabthrash]

Blue Dragonfly Condenser is worth checking out IMO.

Btw that drums tone in the Ola remix clip is awesome !!!

 

[arv_foh]

Thank you very much. PR30 seems not bad at all. Did you ever try ADK mics?

I can't say that I have. Every Heil microphone that I have tried, I have loved. I also have a set of PR28s for tom mics. Also, on that studio recording there was just a HP/LP on guitar. No post EQ.

 

[mickrich]

I totally agree.
I recently got a 421 and it kills mixed with a 57.
I could not go back to 57 on it's own.
Download my Metallica cover band multi to hear them.
The guitar tracks are 57 and 421 on separate tracks.
ESP custom to gsp1101 (for ts,eq,gate)> mesa triple rec>recto os cab>API A2D.
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/583789-metallica-cover-multitrack-mix.html
Or send me a DI to reamp with 57 and 421 if you want.

 

[Damphire]

Audix I5 maybe? works pretty well