VCC Volume Control?!?

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Hey guys I heard some dude and GC talking about if you crank the volume control up on VCC it adds coloration just like cracking the Drive control? I told him are you sure it's just not making it louder and you think it's adding something? But he said he was 100% sure. Any thing to support this?
 
Of course it does. It kicks into saturation the more you drive it with the input level. The 'Drive' knob is only there as an auxiliary feature to alter density/saturation without messing with your levels.
 
Ok I understand the Drive will add color, but the input knob adds color to of I'm understand this? I just though it was a volume knob for the signal coming in.
 
Yes, It adds color.
Thats why you should be careful with gain structure before the signals hits it. Don't ajust the level to achieve 0dbVU (if you want this level) ajust the gain on the track. Although, if you want some color you should crank it!
 
^LOL, right?!

And yes, as stated above, the input control is essential how hard you are driving the particular 'console'.

Drive knob is an added feature to add more harmonic coloration and more of the consoles 'vibe'. At unity it replicates what the actual console would sound like.

Basically, the higher you push the drive knob, you're essentially turning the 'console' into more saturation and coloration. It's an additive affect and basically increases the 'effect' of the plug.

I find I 99% of the time prefer the Drive at UNITY and use the input control to hit the console however hard I'd like. I personally shoot for around 0dB on the highest peaks and leave the rest to the plug.
 
Taken from the vcc manual

Input
Increases the input gain, which will drive the channel harder,
both raising the level of the output and increasing the nonlinear characteristics.

Drive
Increases the nonlinear response of the selected console without increasing the output level.
Drive can add more analog response without altering balances.

so basically INPUT increases VOLUME and SATURATION
while DRIVE will increase SATURATION without changing the level.
 
Sooo... wouldn't it be a smart move to use the drive knob instead of the volume knob regarding the comparability of the raw track and the track+VCC (eliminating the loud = better effect)?
 
I see.. so you "drive the saturation" with your DAW fader / your gain staging while recording, amirite? but is there any difference? and if, what you'd say are the advantages? thanks so far, always a great help, dude!

ah, and, another question: wouldnt that mean that i'd have to record quite hot to get into the ballpark (where VCC colors the sound)?
 
wouldnt that mean that i'd have to record quite hot to get into the ballpark (where VCC colors the sound)?

no, you don't want your tracks hot. you don't want vcc in the red. your mix can start to really sound weird when 50 tracks aren't gain staged properly and every vcc insert is getting pretty slammed. it's meant to be subtle, but when stacked it makes quite a difference.
 
IIRC, VCC is calibrated standard to hit 0 on the VU meter at -18dbfs in your daw. This is a pretty common level for other plugins and outboard gear too, so it's good practice to work around that level anyway. If things sound too quiet that way, just turn up those monitors a bit more. Leave the loudness to the mastering phase.

By the way, you can check how things sound with more or less saturation quickly, without changing the volume. You can do this by going to the calibration menu in VCC, and changing that -18dbfs calibration point to a higher or lower setting for individual groups or the entire session. This way, the lower you set the calibration point, the higher the saturation becomes. Handy for finding the sweetspot on a drumbus/bass, because those usually get a bit more punch and depth by saturating a bit. Too much and it sounds like a cardboard box though.
Once you have found that sweetspot, you can still reset the calibration, and change the track input gain accordingly. This may be the same thing that the drive knob does, I don't know, but I like when the VU meter reflects what is happening to the signal.