WhiteBeastofWotan
Apostitutes!
You know, thats exactly the reason that I prefer Diadem over Two Hunters. Every single song starts out mellow... then... BAM BLASTBEAT OMG BLACK METAL!
what is up with blastbeats?
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You know, thats exactly the reason that I prefer Diadem over Two Hunters. Every single song starts out mellow... then... BAM BLASTBEAT OMG BLACK METAL!
skyrefuge
Member
Ah, you fuckers. I'm listening to "Two Hunters" for the first time as I'm reading this thread. My first thought as I was listening to the first track was "well, here's a black metal album that I probably don't have to worry about two many blast beats on!" Now the second track started, and the damn blast beat is all that I can hear. It would probably be a lot less annoying if you hadn't made me focus all my attention on it!
It's weird how metal has a whole slew of conventionally-unpleasant components (horribly shredded vocals, distorted guitars, minor keys) that can seem quite comforting once you get used to them, but blast beats seem to be on an entirely different level of annoyance.
It's weird how metal has a whole slew of conventionally-unpleasant components (horribly shredded vocals, distorted guitars, minor keys) that can seem quite comforting once you get used to them, but blast beats seem to be on an entirely different level of annoyance.
"The Streams..." is only an MCD/MLP, about 22 minutes of music, this year there will also be an acoustic MCD called Sarastus (20 minutes) available. I have no idea where to get "The Streams", but do check The End and maybe Moribound or order directly from Debemur Morti (France). Sarastus will be released by No Sign Of Life (Finland) later this year...The next full-lenght (harsher music like The Streams...) should be out early '08 by Debemur Morti.
EDIT - The full-lenght will be called "The Womb of Primordial Nature" and you could figure it out, but taking a mixer and put in some Drudkh, pop-Amorpis, Ulver, Empyrium, Primordial and some originality + maybe some Moonsorrow (thanks to the drummer, Tarvonen), hehe. Anyway, that will be the best OF will ever do, maybe nothing will come after this is done.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Been checking The End. No luck. But I'll keep looking.
Awesome.
If it sounds as you've described, it will hopefully not be the last thing OF does.
Just out of curiosity, why are you thinking about drawing the curtain on OF?
Zod
Yea, i just grabbed the torrent online, Would love to get my hands on an actual copy if that's possiable in the US.
Anyway, on the topic at hand, I've noticed that certain songs just sound weak and powerless without a good blastbeat behind it, and the bands that overdue it to death sound like utter shit. It's just a matter of eharing a song and knowing when to blast, and when to use restraint.
Equilibrium's a good example of that. Some of it sounds awesome, but some of the blastbeats sound WAY out of place on a lot of it. Restraint is a good thing, but don't cut the life off an album by not doing blastbeats.
Anyway, on the topic at hand, I've noticed that certain songs just sound weak and powerless without a good blastbeat behind it, and the bands that overdue it to death sound like utter shit. It's just a matter of eharing a song and knowing when to blast, and when to use restraint.
Equilibrium's a good example of that. Some of it sounds awesome, but some of the blastbeats sound WAY out of place on a lot of it. Restraint is a good thing, but don't cut the life off an album by not doing blastbeats.
swizzlenuts
i'm sciencing as fast as i can
I actually disagree. I think the blast beats on this album are awesome, because the riffs are so slow, that the blast beats keep the pace of the song going while the guitars can weave in and out of the them. When they change the drumming pattern, the riffs really come out and hit you in the face with the atmosphere. I also don't think the album has only sleep and kill modes, it's just only sleep. The riffs on the whole entire album are slow, the only thing that changes is the drumming, which keeps the song going forward.
The way you guys are talking about the album makes me think that their use of blast beats are used for the same reason as Averse Sefira or something.
I'm not actually put off by the drumming on the new Wolves album -- truth be known, I never actually noticed excessive use of blastbeats! and perhaps now I will hehe -- but when I started this thread, I was thinking of bands more along the lines of Wintersun or 1349.
Even Kataklysm suffer from this. Whoop de doo, the drummer can play fast like a machine gun. So what. It sounds like utter shit and destroys an otherwise phenomenal guitar riff.
Moderation is the key, but unfortunately we now have a drummers mentality in metal where provided the drummer can blastbeat, then he shall. Completely regardless of the rest of the song. This is happening WAY too much now. Perhaps not full albums but the occasional song which is entirely ruined simply because of blasting bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam ad fucking nauseum.
Reign in Acai
Of Elephant and Man
Kataklysm's blasting fits the atmosphere quite nicely. Did that vasectomy result in your balls ascending like Jean-Michel's after a routine chest waxing?* Now Wintersun's blast beats on the other hand, are obscene and I was quite surprised to hear that that was actually a human being laying down that trite behind a kit. It's so mechanical sounding, devoid of variation, and barren of emotion. Putrid music that needs to be thrown in to Boston Harbor along side C.O.B, I.C.E, and Notorious B.I.G. I can't believe this twat left Ensiferum to put out this refuse. It's like ditching a Nordic Maiden to go have sex with a fleshlight. I'll definitely plan on being drunk out of my tits during their performance.**
*Spoken with love and tenderness
**At the hotel
*Spoken with love and tenderness
**At the hotel
Very possibly!
Yeah, well, you can't criticize Wintersun without issuing the same insult towards Kataklysm. They are guilty of the same crime!
Recording process:
step 1: guitars & bass recorded
step 2: vocals recorded:
step 3: drummer blasts away randomly without even listening to guitars and vocals and some dull cunt who happens to be deaf has the poor job of mixing it all together
Reign in Acai
Of Elephant and Man
Maybe so, but the sound Kataklysm is trying to achieve works well to take attention from the blast-o-rama. Not to mention that their drummer is quite skilled and it's easily detectable that it's a human being bang away at the skins. Bintersun is jolly pseudo folk faggotry which is so overly produced that I'm waiting for Bob Rock to fill in on Bass. Seriously, what the fuck is this shit!?!? Petat Petat Petat Petat Yodelayeeehoo Fuck You Too!
Throw these blasterbaters on to the bonus days so I don't have to be arsed to buy extra beer to make me forget who I'm listening to.
Throw these blasterbaters on to the bonus days so I don't have to be arsed to buy extra beer to make me forget who I'm listening to.
AsModEe
also known as ass-mode
fuck you. For you information, I stopped the wax thing, I'm now back to the "hairy as a bear" state.About Kataclysm, I wouldn't hate their blastbeats so much if their drummer could do the double bass kicks a bit faster. Actually he's not doing any double bass, it just sounds like he's trying to hit his snare as fast as possible, doing one bass kick here and there for the heck of it.
And since when do you all know my name?
unhinged
R.i.P. Lizard
On the next October Falls-full lenght, the drummer M.Tarvonen "refused" to play the insane blasts, so we changed the drumparts.
...and they got much better...
you know thats true
scald songs pretty much all start out with a bit of blasting somewhere
but mostly it gets changed to something more interesting
If blastbeats make up more the 1/5 of the album, I am immediately turned off. They're just as lazy as the constant double bass in power metal. In fact, black metal and power metal have a lot in common, more than black metal fans care to admit.
cthulufhtagn
Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago
NAD
What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
