i've always been curious as to why people always try to say what is the "real" metal and what is not and other such shit.....i do it too....but i dont know why...i'm guessing it's because people have a natural instinct to be superior and when they tell someone their opinion, they think they are proving a point and therefore boosting their "power" really it's stupid. like saying dimmu borgir aren't black metal or something. who the hell are we to judge what music they play? if they say they play black metal, they play black metal. they are the ones that make the music, not us, so they can name it whatever the hell they want. who are we to cut in what they call their music? it happens with other stuff too, like who were the 'real" pioneers of heavy metal and stuff like that.....it just gets stupid after a while