Who do you think are the best prog metal bands today?

Jean-Pierre said:
Yes, yes, yes and yes.

Add SunnO))) to your list.

Agreed.. although I'm not a huge fan of Sunn (have to be in that special mood), I think music like that is pushing the boundaries much more than stuff like Symphony X.

And I MIGHT add Meshuggah to the list... depends where they go with their next album.
 
hibernal_dream said:
Meshuggah is undoubtedly prog-metal: name another band which put forward that sort of non-traditional ideas in rhythm before they did.

They play a few offbeat notes ?. That might be breaking tradition values in music by influenced nu-metal but it's not 'prog'.

Korn broke non traditional ideas in a similiar sence by making simple downtuned hip sounding rythmn for a newer generation. That does not make the music prog though.

Fear Factory also.

The bands just sound less traditional, not more musical or prog.
 
The Greys said:
They play a few offbeat notes ?. That might be breaking tradition values in music by influenced nu-metal but it's not 'prog'.

Korn broke non traditional ideas in a similiar sence by making simple downtuned hip sounding rythmn for a newer generation. That does not make the music prog though.

Fear Factory also.

The bands just sound less traditional, not more musical or prog.

Not playing a style traditionally is doing something new, i see that as progression. Meshuggah has progressed more than most of the bands mentioned here throughought their career , though their sound has been copied and isn't really anything TOO different anymore (hence why I said I'd wait to see what their next album is like, maybe theyll push it again) but I still don't think anyone does Meshuggah like Meshuggah. The label "progressive" shouldn't have anything to do with a certain style, but how a band pushes that style and creates something new (IMO). This paragraph might be a mess, hopefully it made sense to someone?
 
Scourge of Malice said:
Not playing a style traditionally is doing something new, i see that as progression. Meshuggah has progressed more than most of the bands mentioned here throughought their career , though their sound has been copied and isn't really anything TOO different anymore (hence why I said I'd wait to see what their next album is like, maybe theyll push it again) but I still don't think anyone does Meshuggah like Meshuggah. The label "progressive" shouldn't have anything to do with a certain style, but how a band pushes that style and creates something new (IMO). This paragraph might be a mess, hopefully it made sense to someone?

So if you record a rock being hit off a rock next to guitars,drums,etc.... is that progressive music ?

Never done before(as far as I know).
 
hibernal_dream said:
Meshuggah is undoubtedly prog-metal: name another band which put forward that sort of non-traditional ideas in rhythm before they did.

No, they're not.
 
The Greys said:
So if you record a rock being hit off a rock next to guitars,drums,etc.... is that progressive music ?

Never done before(as far as I know).


Have you ever actually looked at what the word PROGRESSIVE means? It doesn't mean shredding and having high pitched clean vocals, maybe mixed with growls, and concept albums. Progressive rock is called progressive rock because those bands were doing new, innovative things in their time. Just because a band sounds like one of those bands doesn't mean they are progressing their genre in any way. Dream Theater, early in their career were progressive, as they were taking metal to new extremes. Now, 20 or so years later, they're still doing the same thing, how is that progressing anything? I'd call an album of rocks being thrown at drums progressive before I called another Dream Theater or Symphony X clone progressive. I understand that theres a genre of music people refer to as "prog metal" which is an easy way of categorizing bands that sound like said bands, but most of these bands aren't in any way progressive.

I guess overall, all I'm getting at is people shouldn't confuse "prog" with progressive. One is a "genre" and one is a label.
 
I dunno. I don't like Dream Theater or progressive power metal. So it would most likely be a progressive extreme metal band like Scald, Pavor, Windham Hell, etc. I think that "prog" isn't a valid genre, anyways, since the bands can sound like anything from Rush to the most brutal death metal.