who is the best sweep picker?

aiwass · Feb 26, 2004

Angelo isn't that good at sweeping - pretty basic stuff, but at really high speeds. Not impossible speeds, though. Rusty Cooley is not much different. Both are insane at other things, though.

Some of my picks:

Gambale
Bellas
Becker
Marshall Harrison
Derryl Gabel

ABQShredHead · Feb 26, 2004

Gotta go with Leslie on this one - Gambale all the way. He doesn't just do the simple minor or major arpeggios. He throws his in a jazz/fusion format. I saw him at a guitar clinic back in the '80's - the guy is crazy.

shredmaster · Feb 27, 2004

Okay now. I think most of us agree that Fareri is crap, Rusty is also(IMO) crap. Gambale is a genius, he was the founder of the technique, as mentioned. He sweeps like a complete maniac, but he doesn`t really do any complicated, and most of them are the same. Angelo plays some of the most cleanest and fastest guitar on earth. It`s simply mindblowing. I think it`s in the intro to "No Boundaries", it`s sweeping all the way, clen as hell. Astonishing. But i can`t bear to listen to it more than about 10 minutes though. Also, i think that Romeo beats them all, since he does not sweep the arpeggios, he actually taps them combined with string skipping to do the whole arpeggios. Then it becomes TOTALLY clean, and the need for the sweeping is therefore(as i see it in most cases) almost superfluous...

ABQShredHead · Feb 27, 2004

P.S. to my earlier message - Leslie, I dig your tunes.

the_satanic_rabbit · Feb 28, 2004

Eduardo Munoz gets my vote

aiwass · Mar 1, 2004

shredmaster said:
Okay now. I think most of us agree that Fareri is crap, Rusty is also(IMO) crap. Gambale is a genius, he was the founder of the technique, as mentioned. He sweeps like a complete maniac, but he doesn`t really do any complicated, and most of them are the same. Angelo plays some of the most cleanest and fastest guitar on earth. It`s simply mindblowing. I think it`s in the intro to "No Boundaries", it`s sweeping all the way, clen as hell. Astonishing. But i can`t bear to listen to it more than about 10 minutes though. Also, i think that Romeo beats them all, since he does not sweep the arpeggios, he actually taps them combined with string skipping to do the whole arpeggios. Then it becomes TOTALLY clean, and the need for the sweeping is therefore(as i see it in most cases) almost superfluous...

Romeo doesn't just tap, he sweeps a lot too. About Angelo, he uses all the same sweep shapes that you and I use. Nothing revolutionary, just fast. Check out Harrison, Bellas or Gambale if you want to see somebody thinking outside the box.

Also, there's a lot of sweep stuff that can't be played using tapping, or that would be much harder to tap than sweep, so it's far from a superior technique. Therefore, to say that Romeo "beats them all", is ludicrous.

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ABQShredHead · Mar 3, 2004

I'll throw a new one out there for some opinions: Theodore Ziras.

aiwass · Mar 7, 2004

ABQShredHead said:
I'll throw a new one out there for some opinions: Theodore Ziras.

Nothing amazing, really. All he does is basic major/minor shapes.

shredmaster · Mar 7, 2004

aiwass said:
Romeo doesn't just tap, he sweeps a lot too. About Angelo, he uses all the same sweep shapes that you and I use. Nothing revolutionary, just fast. Check out Harrison, Bellas or Gambale if you want to see somebody thinking outside the box.

Also, there's a lot of sweep stuff that can't be played using tapping, or that would be much harder to tap than sweep, so it's far from a superior technique. Therefore, to say that Romeo "beats them all", is ludicrous.

I didn`t mean he beat them all, only the ones i mentioned, with the possible exception of Gambale. Of course Romeo does sweeps also, (and yoyu are also correct when saying not everything can be tapped)but he also taps ALOT, yet he is not unique in doing this. Angelo mostly do the basic stuff, but it`s almost always clean, which was my point. But nothing special, you`re absolutely right...George Bellas is great too...

ABQShredHead · Mar 9, 2004

aiwass said:
Nothing amazing, really. All he does is basic major/minor shapes.

True, but he does them quite well.

Serge... · Mar 10, 2004

Yeah, sweeping major and minor arps well is one thing, but then you have guys like Frank Gambale who sweep through just about any chord you can think of. After learning to sweep, I've realized that 3 note in an octave sweep shapes are nothing compared to extended sweeps with 7ths, 9ths, and altered tones. Because of that, you can't even compare Michael Angelo to Frank Gambale. Jazz is the toughest type of music to play, period.

ABQShredHead · Mar 10, 2004

Serge... said:
Yeah, sweeping major and minor arps well is one thing, but then you have guys like Frank Gambale who sweep through just about any chord you can think of. After learning to sweep, I've realized that 3 note in an octave sweep shapes are nothing compared to extended sweeps with 7ths, 9ths, and altered tones. Because of that, you can't even compare Michael Angelo to Frank Gambale. Jazz is the toughest type of music to play, period.

I couldn't agree with you more, Serge. But as far as straight sweeping, Ziras is quite good. His new CD is much more complex than his first, and he has a ton of great videos on his website for the aspiring sweepers to learn from.

shredmaster · Mar 11, 2004

Jazz is very varied music, and can be played very differently. I`m sure that PURELY TECHNICALLY, Michael Angelo could do for example anything by Joe Pas, Bireli Lagrene or Scofield. Of course, you could say he can`t do Holldsworth, but that`s more fusion like...I do agree with Serge that it`mush cooler to add a 7`th or a 9`th occasionally than only sweep the octaves!

Serge... · Mar 12, 2004

shredmaster said:
Jazz is very varied music, and can be played very differently. I`m sure that PURELY TECHNICALLY, Michael Angelo could do for example anything by Joe Pas, Bireli Lagrene or Scofield. Of course, you could say he can`t do Holldsworth, but that`s more fusion like...I do agree with Serge that it`mush cooler to add a 7`th or a 9`th occasionally than only sweep the octaves!

Maybe Angelo can but who did it take longer to master their skills, Angelo or those jazz guys? I'm guessing the jazz guys. What I meant is it's generally a tough style to get the hang of.

shredmaster · Mar 13, 2004

I agree!

OfSinsAndShred · Mar 13, 2004

As someone who's getting into jazz now, yes, it's hard as hell to get the hang of. The improvising calls for a lot of knowledge right off the top of your head, and the composition is just mindblowing.

ABQShredHead · Mar 15, 2004

Ah, I can see it now - a bunch of shredders sweeping through a I-vi-ii-V7alt progression with ever greater abandon. We shall infect all musical genres - no listeners are safe! Woohahaha

Mo Metal · Mar 19, 2004

Well, the only thing I know is that Michael Angelo actually studied Jazz...so he shouldbe able to play it (I heard him saying it directly)

soulshred · Mar 19, 2004

All high tech shredders(Yngwie,Rusty,Stump,Forte,Romeo....) are technically capeble of playing the most advanced jazz stuff ı am sure.yes jazz is very diffucult teorically but technically metal shit is the thoughest because its much much more faster than other styles.But its just my opinion ı never seriously studied jazz.

Marcus Paus is another amazing sweeppicker.

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