woe, is me - number[s] (woeeee!)

just so everyone knows... i was hired to master the cd after the booklets were printed which means it doesn't mention my name anywhere

it is indeed mastered by me, and no i didnt add any reverb if you're wondering. i opted for cameron to leave it in as i didnt think it was really hurting anything / sounded fine.

i think this album will allow people to experience what cameron can do in a way not possible before, brought out by the mastering. at least i hope so.

i really loved doing this job. and if you actually own the cd, there's some really cool "cd player tricks" (count down / negative space) that i put in with the transitions =]]
 
just so everyone knows... i was hired to master the cd after the booklets were printed which means it doesn't mention my name anywhere

it is indeed mastered by me, and no i didnt add any reverb if you're wondering. i opted for cameron to leave it in as i didnt think it was really hurting anything / sounded fine.

i think this album will allow people to experience what cameron can do in a way not possible before, brought out by the mastering. at least i hope so.

i really loved doing this job. and if you actually own the cd, there's some really cool "cd player tricks" (count down / negative space) that i put in with the transitions =]]


the reverb sounds good... it just seemed like a lot. (i think the effect has grown on me).

i am very inspired by this album... and i believe cameron successfully translated the sound the band was looking for ...and i also believe (as a listener) the work you performed was evidently a sense of great chemistry. i'm sure the band was really excited to have you work on their album. (i would be)! :D

(i do own the cd) ...the pq subcode placements are outstanding! i love the "on veiled men" to "[&] delinquents" transition, as well as "keep your enemies close" to "hell, or high water."

like i said; this record will go down as one of the most impressive compositions (imo) due to the effort (i could only imagine) that was contributed to make this album work.

seriously, big-ups! :)
 
if you actually own the cd, there's some really cool "cd player tricks" (count down / negative space) that i put in with the transitions =]]

Hehe, yeah I already thought this is definintely little "joey-special"... :D
it's awesome how you put your fingerprint on this record although you "only" did the mastering.

Btw, I guess you mastered in stems, didn't you?

But as I already said, these stutters are too much on this record. If you ever start listening closer to them, they'll soon get on your nerves.
 
these stutters are too much on this record. If you ever start listening closer to them, they'll soon get on your nerves.

imo... the fragmented audio demonstrates an industrial/post-apocalyptic sound.

sure, music of the 21st century is riddled with this particular element... however if artificial yet crafty edits were going to be used on anything, it would be in the vein of this genre (think, sky eats airplane). i believe that the edits suit the production of this very dark and brutal sound.


personally, i don't feel it to be redundant or repetitive at all (which could be an ironic statement).


*to each his own, i would suppose.
 
Don't you have the same feeling that all these stuttering FX distract you from the basic music and the songs? At first I didn't noticed them that much, but when I heard the album a second time, it got deeply on my nerves.

as cool as they are, I think you are right in that it is somewhat overdone. Doesn't get on my nerves per say, but if you are listening to an album straight through it is definitely overkill. About 20% less of it and it would've been perfect for straight-through listening, still enough to get the idea and vibe if you were just jamming one song.
 
Despite my issues, it really is an awesome CD. Seems like I spot tons of little aggravating things now that im producing, got let it go and just enjoy. My favorite "screamo" cd of the year so far definitely, congrats to all involved for this massive masterpiece.
 
little of topic but when doing the stutter effect do you use fade ins and outs of each cut or just have an aprupt cut? thanks
 
yeah...im not sucking on joeys ball's but im sure the mastering had a lot to do with this sounding so much better then their older stuff at chango (just with mastering i can tell the guitars didn't sound this good)

i can't dig the drum sound but i can't also hate it...so i guess it's right on! haha...im really liking this band now.

but i seriously think they went far too generous with the stuttering/glitching thing.
 
I'm also curious about how the original mixes compare to the final masters. I checked out Chango's myspace and all of their tunes have this god awful high end. Maybe its the cymbal samples the guy uses or how he processes them.

I googled Chango and also found that they have a myspace dedicated to their mastering services, which also makes me wonder why that studio did everything but mastering.
 
There's something up with the end of song 5 when those high, unhuman harmonies kick in I always have to press next. I feel like the first four songs need at least one gap. You think your on the second song and you look, you're on song 4. Maybe bad placement? Other than that I like the cd as a whole besides the drums.
 
There's something up with the end of song 5 when those high, unhuman harmonies kick in I always have to press next. I feel like the first four songs need at least one gap. You think your on the second song and you look, you're on song 4. Maybe bad placement? Other than that I like the cd as a whole besides the drums.

uhh that must mean good placement.
A cd that flows is far better than any cd that is chopping with constant start, stop, start, stop
 
REALLY digging this production too. Love the obvious touch Joey did. And obviously it would have had to be tracked very well by Chango.

I really dig the glitch/stutter effects and whatnot. It's really where I'm sure the next wave of (hardcore, etc) CD production and sound are going to turn to. Electronic/Metal infused stuff. Or not, who knows haha.

But I was most impressed when i was wondering how their are going to reproduce this CD to all the kiddies live.



I found that video of a set of theirs. I'm pretty impressed with the keyboardist, everything is put together very well! And in the note it mentions that this was their 5th show EVER. I'm pretty shocked, these dudes know what they're doin!

Any ideas on how live they triggered all the echo/delay effects to his live vocals? Was the keyboardist queuing it? Backtracks? Just curious if anyone has any info on this sorta thang.
 
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From that live vid, it sounded like chango will have had to do a hell of a lot of editing/tuning on the clean vocals. Not digging them live at all. I know its different for a vocalist to sing live but its not that in tune for the whole thing
 
From that live vid, it sounded like chango will have had to do a hell of a lot of editing/tuning on the clean vocals. Not digging them live at all. I know its different for a vocalist to sing live but its not that in tune for the whole thing

he is just not hitting the higher notes! seen this so often by other bands! but his voice sounds good, though! it's just ridiculess loud in comparison to the other instruments! :D