Badbird
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I haven't heard it yet but latley Slayer have been in a dump but with the good things I have heard I might check it out.
World Painted Blood
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sixxswine
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Great album check it out it's worth the money. More melody on this one which does take you back to South Of Heaven and Seasons era Slayer....
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The Communists had Gulags for decades before the Nazi's did. So I'm not sure if the Japanese thought of the idea themselves or were inspired by someone else but it hardly originated with the Nazi's.
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mdmatt4ever
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not being mean but do you know what a producer does? the problems you are naming are sound engineer problems and unless rubin also mixed the album he had nothing to do with clipping or any other sound problem
sixxswine
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Rick Rubin hasn't produced much of Slayer since Seasons. Sounds like these days he "executive produces" the albums which that is open to interpretation I suppose. According to Slayer he pops in from time to time and simply adds his name to the liners...
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i heard that too for a lot of bands. danzig and ac/dc also mentioned they saw little of rubin. its almost funny people say he's the best producer of the last 25 years when he barely works with a lot of the bands he gets a credit on and he has no distinct sound i can think of. when a song comes on jeff lynne produced you can tell he produced it
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I hear he's doing some cool stuff with ZZ Top, actual production work as he's done with Neil Diamond and the Chili Peppers... Though they haven't recorded much since they hit the road again. Rick's usual style from what I've read is letting bands know when a band is complete and ready to record. He'll stop by the studio and say "that's not good enough, you need to work more on the chorus or this or that" he'll leave and come back in a day or so...That's really strange but it's worked with a lot of bands...
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sixxswine
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Not a huge fan of theirs but if he can breathe new lfe into their career then he is a true miracle worker.
Badbird
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Rick Rubin has worked with lots of different bands and rappers.From his hip hop side he work with Beastie Boys,Jay Z,Lil John,Public Ememy and Run-DMC.On the metal and hard rock side he work with thrash metal like Slayer and Metallica and doom metal with Trouble and hard rock with AC/DC and Danzig.He also know for mixing rap with rock with the bands he produced.He helped people like Johnny Cash and Tom Petty for both of their work in the 90s.Has produced with RHCP since their Blood,Sugar,Sex and Magic album.Not the best producer.
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Whether he's produced alot of bands I don't care for or not... his work on Reign in Blood is amazing. Compare the production on that album to the previous one's and its lightyears ahead. Its one of the things that make it one of the best metal albums ever.
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Rubin just told Slayer to work with Greg Fidelman who had previously butchered Death Magnetic.
And even if the clipping is not as audible on WPB, it's there.
But the real problem here is the mix in itself.
I have nothing against a raw approach to mixing a metal band but WPB sounds flat, powerless and muddy.
There's no low end, the mid range is unnecessarily agressive, the guitars are a joke (did they use these mini marshall 1W ), and the extreme compression is applied in a total unmusical way.
It adds that kind of harsh and "plastic" colour to the whole spectrum and the result is just painful to the ears imo.
I've always wondered why a guy with such high-end studio equipment (look at the studio report on youtube) would come up with an average demo-like mix and convince experimented bands like Metallica and Slayer that it sounded good.
I have no doubt he must be a pretty cool guy to work with but his approach to mixing metal bands is completely irrationnal in my book. Like he was trying to incorporate all the basic mistakes of mixing (overcompression, digital saturation, no depth, thin stereo, agressive EQing...)in his work.
And even if the clipping is not as audible on WPB, it's there.
But the real problem here is the mix in itself.
I have nothing against a raw approach to mixing a metal band but WPB sounds flat, powerless and muddy.
There's no low end, the mid range is unnecessarily agressive, the guitars are a joke (did they use these mini marshall 1W ), and the extreme compression is applied in a total unmusical way.
It adds that kind of harsh and "plastic" colour to the whole spectrum and the result is just painful to the ears imo.
I've always wondered why a guy with such high-end studio equipment (look at the studio report on youtube) would come up with an average demo-like mix and convince experimented bands like Metallica and Slayer that it sounded good.
I have no doubt he must be a pretty cool guy to work with but his approach to mixing metal bands is completely irrationnal in my book. Like he was trying to incorporate all the basic mistakes of mixing (overcompression, digital saturation, no depth, thin stereo, agressive EQing...)in his work.
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poundingmetal74
Demons Will Fly
I had no intention of checking the album out but now I guess I have to.
EDIT: Yup, this disc clips like crazy. It's not as bad as Death Mag, it's still pretty bad. If you plan on cranking this album, forget it. Brickwalled beyond belief. The kicks and snares are stomped down on a lot and sound like shit.
The record has a real lack of "punch", but musically it's not half bad from the 3-4 songs I heard. It just gets painful to listen to at anything resembling a decent volume after about 10 minutes.
Guess we'll have to wait for the guitar hero remaster.
poundingmetal74
Demons Will Fly
Reign's production was pretty good but there are so many better sounding records. For Slayer it definitely had that thrashy sound without sounding weak.
sixxswine
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