Your defining moment (so far)
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Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
Kushantaiidan
SPASIBA AX.
2 months ago i gave up.
simply gave up.
i don't work, i skip all my classes, i don't care anymore. if i was an idiot, i would have commited suicide by now.
That was my latest defining moment.
I founf I have no purpose, no use. I just try enjoy my life day to day, listen to muic, download anime, play computer games, have fun with my girl friend.
I'm kinda behaving like a terminally ill person, trying to enjoy the last moments of life, forgetting about the future.
I used to have big plans, and dreams, but my Mother and this hopeless university, and this shitty poor ass country saw to my failure. My mother has physically and mentally abused me beyond the point of no return. hooray. i need a hug. i need... OPETH!
simply gave up.
i don't work, i skip all my classes, i don't care anymore. if i was an idiot, i would have commited suicide by now.
That was my latest defining moment.
I founf I have no purpose, no use. I just try enjoy my life day to day, listen to muic, download anime, play computer games, have fun with my girl friend.
I'm kinda behaving like a terminally ill person, trying to enjoy the last moments of life, forgetting about the future.
I used to have big plans, and dreams, but my Mother and this hopeless university, and this shitty poor ass country saw to my failure. My mother has physically and mentally abused me beyond the point of no return. hooray. i need a hug. i need... OPETH!
Obyeybyeogone
New Metal Member
Kushantaiidan
SPASIBA AX.
Youth allowence... Government Payment for students when parents don't earn enough money.
My poor ass parents make like $25,000 AU a year.
$12000 US that is.
I get $60 AU a week. $30 goes to Petrol $20 goes to Board (to the parents) $14 goes to guitar lessons, $10 goes to food etc.
does it add up? NO!!!! what does that mean? I'm fucked.
My last job also caused me to get GAD, and SAD, and I already have ADD, and I have a phobia of working, and chronic \fatigue syndrome. So I neither wnat nor can get another job.
my bank balance keeps going down. when I run out, then I spose I stop, i stop and stand there, and stand there stare at a wall or something, do nothing.
I will be kicked out of university at the end of the year as well, because I have already failed my subjects, so then the governmnet payments will stop. I can not afford to move out, tho I want nothing more than that. So my future is non existant.
Obyeybyeogone
New Metal Member
Kushantaiidan
SPASIBA AX.
Ok this isn't funny , but just the way you added add in there made me laugh , heheh ... good luck with the money situation ..
I got 2 words for ya
Sell Weed
than at least if you get busted you'll be living for free , but in prison , still theres a good side to all this .
Sometimes your not easy to understand ,, but hey ,,, who gives a fuck were all gonna die sometime , even if you do give him money for food once a day , and play musical instruments in art class so they'll feed you ,, well at least i'm not confusing , I think it's just you ,,,, and I think I'm fried out of my tree!! .
Misanthrope
Latin, NOT Mexican.
How can you people even think about money? this is the kind of thinking that makes me hate anything that calls himself an inteligent beign.
Why could you possibly need money for when you have no future, when you barely have a present, when your memories and past fade away each time you do or think anything each time you draw breath each time your heart beats.
I understand Kushantaiidan situation cause its similar to my own almost in every aspect he mentioned, Money means nothing left to hold on to, when you have lost all will to try again, when you just know you took the last fucking crap life trows at you and wont even stand up anymore. I cant get up in the mornings i cant mantain a stable relationship with my gf, or my friends wich are almost all gone, i cant think i can do nothing but being trapped in my music forever with no way out
...yet you people only think what is he gonna do for money
Why could you possibly need money for when you have no future, when you barely have a present, when your memories and past fade away each time you do or think anything each time you draw breath each time your heart beats.
I understand Kushantaiidan situation cause its similar to my own almost in every aspect he mentioned, Money means nothing left to hold on to, when you have lost all will to try again, when you just know you took the last fucking crap life trows at you and wont even stand up anymore. I cant get up in the mornings i cant mantain a stable relationship with my gf, or my friends wich are almost all gone, i cant think i can do nothing but being trapped in my music forever with no way out
...yet you people only think what is he gonna do for money
Russell
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I don't think I can say that really. I mean I'vr had many moments I would consider having changed me as a person, and I'm sure I'll have many more, so I feel unable to single out one. I too had a friend that copmmitted suicide a while ago, that affected me, as did trying to stop his girlfriend do the same. Listening to Opeth for the first time affected me. They day I decided I wanted to own as much music as humanly possible and realised the importance of music. The day I started my current college, the day I realised I hated my last school and I'd have to spend another 4 years there. In essence I think there are many of these moments, just a few whioch I've listed above that make me me
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
all i'm thinking is y'all need to get on some goddamn prozac, and fast.
you MUST realize that everything you described is someone who is clinically depressed. in this day and age, it's not like you don't have a choice and are doomed to a life of hopelessness.
i know it's hard to get the motivation to go to the doctor, because a lack of motivation is obviously a symptom of depression (i'm dealing with that now). but realize that your situations CAN be changed, so i can't feel that sorry for you.
Yeah, that is the answer, let's pump Misanthrope full of drugs
. Lina, I hope you dont believe this is the solution alone. Let's not get to the root of the problem so we can truly make progress 
. I am disgusted by the amount of drugs doctors prescribe these days. Drugs are not meant to be the solution to the problem, they are a part of the solution. People want the quick solution (i.e. temporary) and that simply isn't good enough.
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
when someone has a disease, they treat it medically. depression is a medical disease. angst is cool these days, so people are somtimes reluctant to part with their own, but it's completely treatable. obviously counseling would be advised along with the prozac. but if they are tired of just barely living life, there IS something they can do. they just don't do it. i don't understand people's aversion to prescribing drugs for depression. maybe you're confusing this with the phenomenon of prescribing drugs for children who are just being rambunctious. in that case, obviously, i would agree with you. but not having the will to live, not planning for one's future, not working out all those details of everyday life, are the basic signs of depression, which is a chemical imbalance in the brain. end of story. swallow your pride and get some medication.Originally posted by Soul4Raziel
Yeah, that is the answer, let's pump Misanthrope full of drugs
Obyeybyeogone
New Metal Member
When I said "what are you going to do for money"? I didn't mean money in the sense "How are you going to buy cool stuff?" It's pretty necesarry to have money to live, you need it to eat and have a place to live.
First of all - good luck in your psychological pursuit.
Now the reality - the profession isn't even close in understanding the complexities of depression - clinical or not. And, once the determination is made that it's clinical depression - the fun really begins.
With depression can come many many other symptoms, which on themselves can require full treatment (ie. eating disorder, anxiety, etc.) Then, try to decide if the patient has other possibilities, such as bi-polar, borderline, etc. Then, try to decide what level of acute care is necessary for the client - hospitalization, partial program, ART, residential, etc.
Every case is an individual case which brings to the table something completely different - as compared to a broken leg, which has a finite # of possible healing treatments. One can never really know how to treat someone with depression - at this stage of the mental health profession, you can only experiment with either mediaction, therapy, or in most cases, some sort of combination of both. I have run into too many psychologists who believe their method works - but haven't found too many who are willing to admit they are out of their league.
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
i have not studied psychology, and i am interested to hear more. however, with the experience that i have had with my own friends, the only problem they had with taking medication is this whole argument being propagated by you and S4R -- they felt like freaks whose (self-damaging) personalities were being changed (enabling them to be happy). they would stop their medication because they wanted to "be like everyone else," not seeming to realize it's the medication that allows them to be like everyone else.
when you say most cases of depression are not of the clinical kind, are you referring to short-term depressive episodes brought on by an event? in that case, yes, i obviously think talking the pain out with a doctor would be very beneficial. and i wouldn't say, just dope them up.
but the lifestyles that misanthrope and kushtaniidan described sound to me like the *classic* signs of the depression that could be treated with medication. explain to me why that would be bad.
and unfortunately, i don't know whether your opinion is coming from your study of psychology or an unrelated aversion to medication in general. your statement, "why not prescribe booze," makes me fear it's the latter. that seems like such a ridiculous question, because when someone is sick with any other disease, say cancer, you would prescribe the appropriate medication. explain to me how this is different.
the brain is a delicate and controversial subject of study because on the one hand, it's just another organ, but on the other hand, it's an organ that "interacts" for lack of a better term. and i would assume psychologists are divided into two camps on how to treat it. and it appears you're in the camp who thinks everything can be solved by talking it out. i've read and seen enough to know this isn't always the case, and i wonder where you draw the line?
it's sometimes hard to tell tone on here, so i'll say i'm not being confrontational at all. i'm just curious, and at the same time, not so sure i can trust your opinion as the enlightened one because i know lots of psychology majors who don't know how to deal with people, proof that psychology isn't an unbiased course of study.
Blackspirit
there are no words left
A friend of mine were/is depressed.
He started seeing a psychologist and after a while
the doctor prescribed him some "luck pills" (Norwegian name).
I have never thought that drugs/medicine would
solve a problem like this, and I was right.
My friend stopped caring, nothing was important.
He said he got more depressed than ever.
He was just "floating" in some way.
All he now cares about is his family, which is good,
but he has lost a lot of barriers in his life because
of the medicine he was prescribed.
He got into a hell of a lot of mess, I think he
woul've avoided if he wasn't on these pills....
He simply didn't care about the consequences,
even though he knew what he was doing was
wrong, and stupid!
He started seeing a psychologist and after a while
the doctor prescribed him some "luck pills" (Norwegian name).
I have never thought that drugs/medicine would
solve a problem like this, and I was right.
My friend stopped caring, nothing was important.
He said he got more depressed than ever.
He was just "floating" in some way.
All he now cares about is his family, which is good,
but he has lost a lot of barriers in his life because
of the medicine he was prescribed.
He got into a hell of a lot of mess, I think he
woul've avoided if he wasn't on these pills....
He simply didn't care about the consequences,
even though he knew what he was doing was
wrong, and stupid!
Kushantaiidan
SPASIBA AX.
*GROUP HUG!!!*
the only thing that matters to me in my life now, is my girlfriend, and my computer, anime, and music. I need money to satisfy those few needs.
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