1987 Sanctuary Interview on YouTube

What the hell is it with Jim and fucking up his hand on tour?

Oh, and the '80s ruled. It's not like I can go see Yngwie, Megadeth twice, OverKill and Nuclear Assault in five days in a row now and have at least three of them not suck. :lol:
 
tered said:
Conventional instruments will be "gay". :lol:

Actually, I'm glad this got posted! It lets me off of the "Wally" thing.
..also answers a couple of questions I've pondered of time.
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just curious
what questions did this answer?
B.T.W. i am the original uploader of this vid on youtube.
sorry for the crap quality, its from an old vcr tape that had been in storage.
i also posted Coven ,Bitterend and Forced Entry. they were all bands that did shows together with sanctuary/nevermore here in seattle.


i could tell you all a few stories of drinking with nevermore. like smashing my head into the side of a house -on accident, in front of jim and wally. that was really Embarrassing.
ive been in all of their homes , except vans.

and im probably posting this in the wrong section . if so im sorry
i just followed the link from youtube to here, and rushed right in. lol
 
OH boy where to start !
in the sanctuary interview you hear wally thank everyone who listens to brain pain. a local college station. well the first time i heard sanctuary on brain pain ,they played the song sanctuary--i was an instant fan. it was the demo version
they hadnt recorded refuge denied yet. i think i was like 16 or 17 yrs old.@ the time. all i wanted to do was meet them. well i got my chance after meeting the dj for brain pain and i was invited to a party with alot of the best local thrash metal bands. infact it was the house of bitterends matt and Chris Fox,and the producer of live metal meltdown where the interview came from.

ok so i got to drink with all of my local idols and it was funny cuz mtv was on
and they had Dave Mustaine on as a special guest,and i sat there and listened to wally tell us some inside stuff about dave being annoyed with his current guitarist. (sorry if i ramble to much, it was my b-day lastnight feb 19th and im a bit drunk lol) to be continued ......
 
continued.......ok so a few yrs later 1990 i started my own band Psychosis <<yes i know its been used a billion times thats why when we disbanded in 92 i changed the name to blood ritual. while in psychosis we practiced at a very famous place called naf productions.our first jam room we shared with alice n chains.

anyhow one night i was waiting for my band to show up and wally came up to me and started talking about the his new band nevermore.
he then invited me in to watch them practice ( a dream come true)
i think the first song they played was "what tomorrow knows" and wally did not sing to this. i dont know that he had lyrics yet or not?

ok moving along..in 92 we had moved out of naf after disbanding, not sure, but i think they left naf before us. now with my soon to be girlfriend that i met at a reverend show (R.I.P. David Wayne) we were invited to Lenny Rutledges
house for afterhours party with reverend. also showing up was wally and jim.
it was a 2 story house that had an overhang by the stairs. well i was pretty drunk and instead of going up the stairs i jumped up from the side of them.
and thats when i smacked my head into the side of the house ,almost knocking myself out..jim and wally happened to be standing right there when i did it.
i remember wally saying how he felt it too , cuz it was kinda loud when i hit lol.

ok heres the ironic part,i was hanging with some friends of mine from 2 other bands. my friend dane from faustes and Curran Murphy from exhale.

we went to our biggest rock radio station in seattle , kisw to visit danes girlfriend.
she was the dj for metal shop. after she got off work we all went to wally and jims house where nevermore was practicing,(it was wallys b-day) well if your a hardcore nevermore fan you will recognise the name Curran Murphy as he later became there touring guitarist and was also featured in nevermores video "Next in Line" to be continued ......
 
ok i got to jump back real quick.
my old band psychosis recorded our 6 song ep in a studio called robert lang studios in late 1990. its also where nevermore recorded there self titled album.

(All Songs Written By NEVERMORE
Produced By Neil Kernon
Recorded & Mixed By Neil Kernon At Robert Lang Studios, Seattle )

anyhow to make a short story long lol..
maybe you already know this maybe you dont? all of nevermore love to go bowling. so on wallys b-day several yrs back a friend and i were invited to wallys bash. we started out at a pizza place in downtown seattle that wally and jim use to own. and we ventured on to a bowling alley in ballard washington. just down the street from where wally and jim use to live.
.
well i came with my own ball and a good average (about 190 +) and kinda sucked in front of everyone. one of the coolest parts of the night ,but not the coolest yet ...was me and jeff Loomis walking or stumbling to the bar ,arms around eachother (holding eachother up ) to get some jagermeister shots. i mean this is mine (and many others ,guitar hero ). so after bowling we all went to jeffs apartment that he shared with Ex-Forbidden guitarist Tim Calvert. jeff always likes to show off previews of material that he has written.

so we watched him jam some new unfinished tunes. then the coolest thing for me was playing on jeffs guitar and Tim Calverts guitar . although jeff told us to keep it quiet that we had played tims guitar ( as tim was not at the apartment at the time ) lol. well im probably boring the hell out of you guys,
and im not trying to show off or be cool , just sharing some dreams come true ,that happened early in my life.as you can see from my avatar pic thats me and my ex girlfriend with alexi from children of bodom, another guitar hero of mine. drinking it up after a show.


oh btw i just talked with jim and wally (they are inseparable) a few months back at a dimmu / devildriver show. wally was kind of off in his own world that night. he kinda looked worn out. he had reddish hair too. well im outa here. if you would like to join me on youtube for future uploads . type in the search bar ( dabest70 ) and you will see some of the local bands that i have uploaded including a band i joined in 1995 called timing chain << lame name
but an ok speed metal band. also i have me talking to curran murphy (ex nevermore) about me dropping my pick. i have not uploaded it yet but i do have the clip if anyones interested, since he was a part of nevermore for a short time. i think a couple of tours, till he joined annihilator.
 
"lol. well im probably boring the hell out of you guys"


Fuck no..way more entertaining that 99% of the drivel that is spewed here. Continue on sir. Mmm and here I was thinking that chick in your avatar was your girl, but it's just Lita...err I mean Alexi.
 
blood_ritual_94 said:
just curious
what questions did this answer?
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Well...normally I don't say much about that period of time (Do I will?); but, I see that you're enthusiastic on the subject and an insider of the metal scene at that time.
Let me tell ya a little story bout a man named Jed...

I used to play in this little collection of deviant hooligans and briefly lived with Warrel and his mom in the Edmonds area.
Early March '85 on a Saturday, four of us were hanging out in the kitchen while Warrel was making breakfast and trying to get us to taste it, Warrel gets a call and it's Dave Budbill. He lived in Lynnwood (nearby). He heard we just lost a drummer and wanted to join the band. With phone in hand Warrel yells to the three of us. "Want to give this kid a try, he's got a shitty kit though". Doug (other guitar dude) looks at John(bass dude) and scrunches his nose and says "Nahhhh...no dude, that's hoak". And then John looks at me
and mumbles/grumbles some unintelligible sentence... Keep in mind...metal in the '82-'85 was geared more to an image, rather than "music".
My priority was to find a job more than a drummer, so I caved into Doug and John's negativism and said nah as well.
A month later Doug left the band and hooked up with the previous drummer whom he got to quit two months earlier. I'm suspecting an ulterior motive here...:u-huh:

So. A month later and living at a new band house in Fremont we get another young and so-so drummer...WITH A NICE KIT:p and Dave hooked up with the Sanctuary cousins, and kept calling Warrel to work on him to join their band. A groupie who we will call ELIZBETH had gone with Warrel to see them and she reported back that they were so-so and didn't have any complete songs. So, I didn't give it much thought.

Summer of '85- John, I and Warrel started working on a heavier direction of music. John and I wrote a song called Battle Angles (lyrics by John also) in '81 that we played for a school talent show before a horrified family type audience of 1000. The other song the three of us were working on was Last Rites, written by John. Those were recorded on a shitty cassette player so Warrel could work the vocals lines out to them. Enthusiasm was a bit low though for us all.

Warrel skipped a practice and I sent the drummer with a roommate that had a car up the street to get Warrel, while I went across the street to Market Time to buy some beer for some young cute girls. When I got back to the house another gal handed me the phone... Warrel was smokin:hotjump: PO'd and diplomatically expressed his intentions to cease his participation in a fine and upstanding establishment.
A short time later the drummer and roommate got back and said they deflated his tires and I found out years later that the roommate spit some kind of juice or pop on the windshield. That roommate ended up being SK's second singer, and at our first show all the Sanctuary guys came and did the group "stand in the middle and arm cross" thing.

So...THAT is how Sanctuary started and it took the 2+ years Lenny mentioned.

Sorry for the details and length, but I have a clear and complete memory.

It's interesting how life events connect, foreshadow and entwine to become the past.
Moral of the story: A good coach always has a sub on the bench and beware of ulterior motives.
 
ok wow so you were in SK.
i know what the band name is, but you didnt mention it in your post other then sk, so i dont know if you want it mentioned so i wont.
btw are you the one uploading all the sk on youtube?

i just watched a video of a song called trial by fire with a bunch of
promo pics of the band and wally doing white rabbit with sk.

are you in those vids? do you still live in the area?

and by the way my enthusiasm isnt just towards nevermore or sanctuary
my enthusiasm as a musician is for all good metal.

and the fact that i live in the area and have had the chance to hang with many
great and many sub par musicians. i just like to share my stories with people of interest.


i know there are alot of people that want to meet a particular band or musician and never have the chance to . like any of the nevermore guys
isnt no big deal anymore cuz you can find them at any metal show in seattle .
providing they arent on tour.


but for instance meeting nightwish,epica and children of bodom was cool cuz they are from other countrys and i dont run into them at local shows. lol
and from what ive been told alexi is kinda hard to meet cuz he runs off to go drinking,and thats exactly what he did. if we hadnt been invited by his other guitar player roope to go to the bar. we would have missed slamming shots with him...

(SORRY FOR THE LONG POST) as you can see i joined here in 2005 and only have a handful of post plus im still a bit drunk.
 
tered said:
Well...normally I don't say much about that period of time (Do I will?); but, I see that you're enthusiastic on the subject and an insider of the metal scene at that time.
Let me tell ya a little story bout a man named Jed...

I used to play in this little collection of deviant hooligans and briefly lived with Warrel and his mom in the Edmonds area.
Early March '85 on a Saturday, four of us were hanging out in the kitchen while Warrel was making breakfast and trying to get us to taste it, Warrel gets a call and it's Dave Budbill. He lived in Lynnwood (nearby). He heard we just lost a drummer and wanted to join the band. With phone in hand Warrel yells to the three of us. "Want to give this kid a try, he's got a shitty kit though". Doug (other guitar dude) looks at John(bass dude) and scrunches his nose and says "Nahhhh...no dude, that's hoak". And then John looks at me
and mumbles/grumbles some unintelligible sentence... Keep in mind...metal in the '82-'85 was geared more to an image, rather than "music".
My priority was to find a job more than a drummer, so I caved into Doug and John's negativism and said nah as well.
A month later Doug left the band and hooked up with the previous drummer whom he got to quit two months earlier. I'm suspecting an ulterior motive here...:u-huh:

So. A month later and living at a new band house in Fremont we get another young and so-so drummer...WITH A NICE KIT:p and Dave hooked up with the Sanctuary cousins, and kept calling Warrel to work on him to join their band. A groupie who we will call ELIZBETH had gone with Warrel to see them and she reported back that they were so-so and didn't have any complete songs. So, I didn't give it much thought.

Summer of '85- John, I and Warrel started working on a heavier direction of music. John and I wrote a song called Battle Angles (lyrics by John also) in '81 that we played for a school talent show before a horrified family type audience of 1000. The other song the three of us were working on was Last Rites, written by John. Those were recorded on a shitty cassette player so Warrel could work the vocals lines out to them. Enthusiasm was a bit low though for us all.

Warrel skipped a practice and I sent the drummer with a roommate that had a car up the street to get Warrel, while I went across the street to Market Time to buy some beer for some young cute girls. When I got back to the house another gal handed me the phone... Warrel was smokin:hotjump: PO'd and diplomatically expressed his intentions to cease his participation in a fine and upstanding establishment.
A short time later the drummer and roommate got back and said they deflated his tires and I found out years later that the roommate spit some kind of juice or pop on the windshield. That roommate ended up being SK's second singer, and at our first show all the Sanctuary guys came and did the group "stand in the middle and arm cross" thing.

So...THAT is how Sanctuary started and it took the 2+ years Lenny mentioned.

Sorry for the details and length, but I have a clear and complete memory.

It's interesting how life events connect, foreshadow and entwine to become the past.
Moral of the story: A good coach always has a sub on the bench and beware of ulterior motives.
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:Smug: :goggly:
 
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