4'33"

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This is music pushed to its logical extreme. Actually, I don't even know if it should be considered music, but I do know that it is an idea, and ideas can be art.

So in your opinion: Genius, Stupid, or Nothing?
 
also, like what happened with Jackson Pollock, after his abstract expressionism, artists started going back to representational art, maybe in music, they will go back to more traditional form, I doubt it though. Its been over 50 years.
 
My guess is this thread's going to get deleted, but here goes anyway. I had to write a paper on 4'33" for music history class a couple years ago. I read a bunch of interviews with John Cage and descriptions of his earlier work than it, and it really does fit logically with his oeuvre. It isn't about the silence, as everyone says, his idea was that the piece would be the reaction of the audience. Since typically they will get more and more restless as the time elapses, the "piece" then has form and structure. Cage was always about atypical "music" and pieces that would never be performed the same way twice, so 4'33" is hardly any less music than many of his other works. A strange guy, and it's interesting conceptually (more interesting than I've stated here, there's more to it that I can't remember), but obviously it isn't something I enjoy "hearing" performances of.
 
Didn't the creator get sued? I remember reading somewhere that either he sued someone or got sued over a "similar" piece.
 
hmmm...just "listened" to it. It reminds me of a blank canvas in an art museum. This "piece" cannot stand by itself unless it has an explanation behind it. Art is supposed to speak for itself. Silent songs and unpainted canvases are just the products of lazy "artists" who call themselves geniuses because they come up with brilliant concepts behind the emptiness. Stupid.