Skinny Puppy formed in '82 mate. Ever seen the live DVD with the frontman wandering about on a pair of massive metal stilts? Scary shit.
Most of their fans have pretty much written them of now becuase their music has changed so much. It is a lot easier on the ear but whether or no they've sacrificed their artistic integrity in the name of the almighty dollar is a subject for debate.
Haven't heard This Empty Flow though, but I already read their name about 4 times today strangely enough, so I should probably see what they are all about...
And since NFU didn't suggest them yet, Wolfsheim, one of the bands I am most greatful for him introducing me to, very inspirational