Alexi passed away
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Coroners would have most likely said it was a drug overdose if that was the case. I don’t think those played a part in his death. They listed the liver and pancreas degeneration as the cause and those were probably just his regular medications for dealing with those issues.
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Yeah, same here. She's not being graceful about any of this. But that something like this would happen was clear. Like I said elsewhere, the cause would come out sooner or later, and it would have been better had the folks surrounding Alexi gotten in front of it.
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If it is included in the certificate (the quotation marks end before the mention of the meds) means that it is somehow relevant. Not sure though if in that condition, science can exactly tell what the actual cause was. The use of the word "cocktail" if it was used, seems a little odd.
From Annihilator: (It was shared Henkka too.)
" So just heard from Alexi's wife that his autopsy report showed death from "alcohol-induced degeneration of the liver and pancreas connective tissue, with painkillers, opioids and insomnia medication."
Alexi and I hit it off right away, back in 2003. I loved his playing and he loved mine. We loved the same guitar players, too! From day 1, however, he would ask me thing like: "How did you quit alcohol?", "How much did you drink?" and "Didn't you go through withdrawal and how did you defeat this?".
Well, I've met MANY who drink excessively but wish they could stop. Sometimes, I get befriended by "stars" who know MY story and feel safe confiding in me about theirs. It is a good feeling when I hear that they have got help, kicked the addiction, etc... BUT more than not, they get to that point of confiding and wanting to get help but then go right back to their former addictive and often deadly ways. Then, they stop talking to me when they are back using. Sadly, Alexi was one of them. HE REALLY WANTED to get clean. Addiction is a nasty fkr. Denial is a HUGE factor. My denial finally ended in the most strangest way: an episode of the Oprah Winfrey show. Yes. The Oprah Winfrey show!
The show featured an alcoholic mother who was trying to say she didn't really drink much and "only beer". I thought "hey, that's like me!"
Oprah asked her how many beers she drank a day and the woman replied "8-10" and the crowd let out a huge "OOOOHHHH NOOOOO".
I didn't know how to react because I was drinking 10-16 beers PER NIGHT! (that fact was also laughed at by 2 of the Pantera guys on March 4th, 1992, in Vancouver, when they asked why I wouldn't drink with them. I told them I quit a few months ago... they said "Is that all you drank?" and laughed.
HOWEVER, one of them came over quietly later and asked how I "did it"...
SO back to the point... I realized I had a real problem when I noticed Oprah's crowd in utter disbelief that this Mom was drinking 8-10 beers per night... I was well over that. So that is the first time I decided I had a real problem and decided to quit right there and then.
The next day, I felt very ill but I ate lots and slept a lot.
BUT the 2nd day, I was watching TV and noticed what I thought was a moth or butterfly inside my shirt. I was not an insect: IT WAS MY HEART. I took my pulse and it was around 180 bpm. RESTING HEARTRATE.
I called 911 and said that my heart was literally seen through my chest. She said "sir, what kind of drug did you take, Cocaine? Speed?" I said "I don't do drugs!". She sent the ambulance asap and assumed it was a drug overdose.
Basically, I was poised for a heart attack. Literally a few more minutes and I would have had one. The doctors asked me a few things and then figured out I was going through withdrawal.
WOW! I was weened of alcohol slowly, then released.
I did NOT want to die. I love life, so I knew I could never do that again. So I didn't drink for 4 years after that, when i slowly introduced a few beers here and there... but it slowly crept up over the next 3 years until I realized "OK, I am not going back to that former addiction excess" so I stopped for good.
No AA. No help. I did a lot of reading on addiction and living with it ... I did it. decades of sobriety now.
But for most others, at this level of addiction, getting help is exactly what should be done. No shame, No blame. Getting/Asking for help actually shows strength and love of life.
So often people become so addicted to mask horrible things and a crappy start to life makes it hard to see that life IS worth living, no matter what the past was like.
Babbling over. I promise! Alexi and countless others DID want help... it was just beyond their capability to ask, get it and continue sobriety. If you have or think you have ANY addiction issues, get help: it shows you are strong and you WILL make your life special, no matter how crappy or hopeless things are or have been. IT JUST GETS BETTER.
I miss you, Alexi. "
" So just heard from Alexi's wife that his autopsy report showed death from "alcohol-induced degeneration of the liver and pancreas connective tissue, with painkillers, opioids and insomnia medication."
Alexi and I hit it off right away, back in 2003. I loved his playing and he loved mine. We loved the same guitar players, too! From day 1, however, he would ask me thing like: "How did you quit alcohol?", "How much did you drink?" and "Didn't you go through withdrawal and how did you defeat this?".
Well, I've met MANY who drink excessively but wish they could stop. Sometimes, I get befriended by "stars" who know MY story and feel safe confiding in me about theirs. It is a good feeling when I hear that they have got help, kicked the addiction, etc... BUT more than not, they get to that point of confiding and wanting to get help but then go right back to their former addictive and often deadly ways. Then, they stop talking to me when they are back using. Sadly, Alexi was one of them. HE REALLY WANTED to get clean. Addiction is a nasty fkr. Denial is a HUGE factor. My denial finally ended in the most strangest way: an episode of the Oprah Winfrey show. Yes. The Oprah Winfrey show!
The show featured an alcoholic mother who was trying to say she didn't really drink much and "only beer". I thought "hey, that's like me!"
Oprah asked her how many beers she drank a day and the woman replied "8-10" and the crowd let out a huge "OOOOHHHH NOOOOO".
I didn't know how to react because I was drinking 10-16 beers PER NIGHT! (that fact was also laughed at by 2 of the Pantera guys on March 4th, 1992, in Vancouver, when they asked why I wouldn't drink with them. I told them I quit a few months ago... they said "Is that all you drank?" and laughed.
HOWEVER, one of them came over quietly later and asked how I "did it"...
SO back to the point... I realized I had a real problem when I noticed Oprah's crowd in utter disbelief that this Mom was drinking 8-10 beers per night... I was well over that. So that is the first time I decided I had a real problem and decided to quit right there and then.
The next day, I felt very ill but I ate lots and slept a lot.
BUT the 2nd day, I was watching TV and noticed what I thought was a moth or butterfly inside my shirt. I was not an insect: IT WAS MY HEART. I took my pulse and it was around 180 bpm. RESTING HEARTRATE.
I called 911 and said that my heart was literally seen through my chest. She said "sir, what kind of drug did you take, Cocaine? Speed?" I said "I don't do drugs!". She sent the ambulance asap and assumed it was a drug overdose.
Basically, I was poised for a heart attack. Literally a few more minutes and I would have had one. The doctors asked me a few things and then figured out I was going through withdrawal.
WOW! I was weened of alcohol slowly, then released.
I did NOT want to die. I love life, so I knew I could never do that again. So I didn't drink for 4 years after that, when i slowly introduced a few beers here and there... but it slowly crept up over the next 3 years until I realized "OK, I am not going back to that former addiction excess" so I stopped for good.
No AA. No help. I did a lot of reading on addiction and living with it ... I did it. decades of sobriety now.
But for most others, at this level of addiction, getting help is exactly what should be done. No shame, No blame. Getting/Asking for help actually shows strength and love of life.
So often people become so addicted to mask horrible things and a crappy start to life makes it hard to see that life IS worth living, no matter what the past was like.
Babbling over. I promise! Alexi and countless others DID want help... it was just beyond their capability to ask, get it and continue sobriety. If you have or think you have ANY addiction issues, get help: it shows you are strong and you WILL make your life special, no matter how crappy or hopeless things are or have been. IT JUST GETS BETTER.
I miss you, Alexi. "
From Annihilator: (It was shared Henkka too.)
" So just heard from Alexi's wife that his autopsy report showed death from "alcohol-induced degeneration of the liver and pancreas connective tissue, with painkillers, opioids and insomnia medication."
Alexi and I hit it off right away, back in 2003. I loved his playing and he loved mine. We loved the same guitar players, too! From day 1, however, he would ask me thing like: "How did you quit alcohol?", "How much did you drink?" and "Didn't you go through withdrawal and how did you defeat this?".
Well, I've met MANY who drink excessively but wish they could stop. Sometimes, I get befriended by "stars" who know MY story and feel safe confiding in me about theirs. It is a good feeling when I hear that they have got help, kicked the addiction, etc... BUT more than not, they get to that point of confiding and wanting to get help but then go right back to their former addictive and often deadly ways. Then, they stop talking to me when they are back using. Sadly, Alexi was one of them. HE REALLY WANTED to get clean. Addiction is a nasty fkr. Denial is a HUGE factor. My denial finally ended in the most strangest way: an episode of the Oprah Winfrey show. Yes. The Oprah Winfrey show!
The show featured an alcoholic mother who was trying to say she didn't really drink much and "only beer". I thought "hey, that's like me!"
Oprah asked her how many beers she drank a day and the woman replied "8-10" and the crowd let out a huge "OOOOHHHH NOOOOO".
I didn't know how to react because I was drinking 10-16 beers PER NIGHT! (that fact was also laughed at by 2 of the Pantera guys on March 4th, 1992, in Vancouver, when they asked why I wouldn't drink with them. I told them I quit a few months ago... they said "Is that all you drank?" and laughed.
HOWEVER, one of them came over quietly later and asked how I "did it"...
SO back to the point... I realized I had a real problem when I noticed Oprah's crowd in utter disbelief that this Mom was drinking 8-10 beers per night... I was well over that. So that is the first time I decided I had a real problem and decided to quit right there and then.
The next day, I felt very ill but I ate lots and slept a lot.
BUT the 2nd day, I was watching TV and noticed what I thought was a moth or butterfly inside my shirt. I was not an insect: IT WAS MY HEART. I took my pulse and it was around 180 bpm. RESTING HEARTRATE.
I called 911 and said that my heart was literally seen through my chest. She said "sir, what kind of drug did you take, Cocaine? Speed?" I said "I don't do drugs!". She sent the ambulance asap and assumed it was a drug overdose.
Basically, I was poised for a heart attack. Literally a few more minutes and I would have had one. The doctors asked me a few things and then figured out I was going through withdrawal.
WOW! I was weened of alcohol slowly, then released.
I did NOT want to die. I love life, so I knew I could never do that again. So I didn't drink for 4 years after that, when i slowly introduced a few beers here and there... but it slowly crept up over the next 3 years until I realized "OK, I am not going back to that former addiction excess" so I stopped for good.
No AA. No help. I did a lot of reading on addiction and living with it ... I did it. decades of sobriety now.
But for most others, at this level of addiction, getting help is exactly what should be done. No shame, No blame. Getting/Asking for help actually shows strength and love of life.
So often people become so addicted to mask horrible things and a crappy start to life makes it hard to see that life IS worth living, no matter what the past was like.
Babbling over. I promise! Alexi and countless others DID want help... it was just beyond their capability to ask, get it and continue sobriety. If you have or think you have ANY addiction issues, get help: it shows you are strong and you WILL make your life special, no matter how crappy or hopeless things are or have been. IT JUST GETS BETTER.
I miss you, Alexi. "
So is that Facebook Page about Henkka really his official page?
I never was sure, if it's really him or a fan made fake.
Please, post it to the Kim vs. Kelli thread (too).
EDIT: Or not. It was posted already.
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dthmtl3
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I'm glad he left a will. At least in that regard there will be no issues. Not that it would prevent someone from trying to cause trouble.
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Finally someone said out loud!
What botthers me is it says "his ashes". So he was... cremated? Why? Why cremation and funeral, what's the point? Why they burned him, it freaks me out!
What botthers me is it says "his ashes". So he was... cremated? Why? Why cremation and funeral, what's the point? Why they burned him, it freaks me out!
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Yeah, ashes means cremation. Either because it was his will or his family's will. Cremation is becoming more and more common over time. Cost and space are an issue. Usually they will be some spot in cemeteries where they keep urns.
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Cremation is very common in Finland. A funeral service is the ceremony and doesn't relate solely to burials. This is the case across Europe.
Aries Poison Girl
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Yes I got that, but why both? Isn't one automatically exclude the other? What's the point to do both? What was that coffin for anyway if there wasn't a body?
I know most of the finns are not so religious, and for example christianity says body not to be cremated or harmed by other way. Even tattoos with hatefull symbols like dragons, devils, such... are taken for bad thing.
I hada friend from Finland who died and was cremated, couldn't understand why.
After all, if there is a funeral what is the point of cremation, isn't that to save space and keep the ashes, mainly?
This is terrible topic, damn.
I know most of the finns are not so religious, and for example christianity says body not to be cremated or harmed by other way. Even tattoos with hatefull symbols like dragons, devils, such... are taken for bad thing.
I hada friend from Finland who died and was cremated, couldn't understand why.
After all, if there is a funeral what is the point of cremation, isn't that to save space and keep the ashes, mainly?
This is terrible topic, damn.
In Finland, are you allowed to scatter the ashes somewhere? I'm from the US, and I've heard of people either scattering ashes or keeping them in an urn in their home, but I don't think I've ever heard of burying the ashes. Does this still happen at a graveyard with a designated plot/ tombstone and whatnot?
Yepp, probably. I think this in some way is similar all-over Europe, we do the same in Hungary except we don't have a separate ceremony with the body in the coffin (then cremate him/her and bury them) but we do all the ceremonies with the urn (from the beginning) then bury the ashes or scattering them if that was the deceased person's will.
Keeping your loved ones ashes around the house is mainly a US thing I guess, I've never heard anyone from Europe doing it.
Keeping your loved ones ashes around the house is mainly a US thing I guess, I've never heard anyone from Europe doing it.
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