American Football = Rugby with Padding, Helmets, and Time Outs for the Obese
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Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
Conspicuously Absent
Linguistically Confused
no, i'm just curious. No goatse, no porn, no gayness. Seems rather straightforward and entertaining/interesting to me. lol
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
One thing I think I can gather a little about what annoys JK about the U.S. when it comes to soccer is the U.S. arrogance toward understanding the sports' popularity worldwide, regardless of our general like or dislike of the sport. It's almost like we're "thumbing our nose" at the passion a large majority of the people of the world possess towards what is generally considered a "hallowed" game.
It does make sense a little, but make no mistake JK, the sport is gaining in popularity every day - you hear more about the "soccer mom" culture in recent years more than ever before. The media and advertising giants have as much to do with keeping pro football, baseball & basketball entrenched in popular culture around these parts as our general love for those sports. However, as youth love for the game of soccer increases, the media and advertising love do not. Win the love of the latter and you have an RSVP to the invitation you speak of.
For the record, I fully understand, respect and appreciate the passion you and the world have for the game - I just happen to not enjoy watching it as much as I'd like to. Perhaps some day my taste will change.
It does make sense a little, but make no mistake JK, the sport is gaining in popularity every day - you hear more about the "soccer mom" culture in recent years more than ever before. The media and advertising giants have as much to do with keeping pro football, baseball & basketball entrenched in popular culture around these parts as our general love for those sports. However, as youth love for the game of soccer increases, the media and advertising love do not. Win the love of the latter and you have an RSVP to the invitation you speak of.
For the record, I fully understand, respect and appreciate the passion you and the world have for the game - I just happen to not enjoy watching it as much as I'd like to. Perhaps some day my taste will change.
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
Conspicuously Absent
Linguistically Confused
if it makes you feel any better dark one, zod and other yankees. I find watching soccer on TV to be rather unexciting as well. But in person or playing it rules. That said, if there wsa more national pride and passion behind it (here in canada as well) it'd be a whole lot better.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Well, we might be better off... I'm just not sure you would. For starters, you'd need to come up with a bit more foreign aid (since we give more than twice what the #2 nation gives). For instance, if Canada wanted to cover our share, they'd just have to give 10x more than they currently do. Of course, you'd also need to find a country whose mere presence ensures trade routes and fiscal stability to world markets. And you also better elect a lone superpower to keep the rest of the world in line. Because if you think the world is going to be a more peaceful place without the U.S. (even with what's going on in Iraq), and countries like Canada are going to stop the likes of a China from doing as they please, you're high on back bacon.Conspicuously Absent said:
Zod
Conspicuously Absent
Linguistically Confused
No, I don't htink that way. But I know most of you guys do.
I don't claim ignorance as to what you guys do. I know full well. I'm not fucking retarded (no, i'm not saying you said that).
That said, you guys still play the role of the antisocial playground bully.
I don't claim ignorance as to what you guys do. I know full well. I'm not fucking retarded (no, i'm not saying you said that).
That said, you guys still play the role of the antisocial playground bully.
lizard
Member
"high on back bacon" lol
I do enjoy soccer but I'd be the first person to advocate rules changes to increase scoring.
I do enjoy soccer but I'd be the first person to advocate rules changes to increase scoring.
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
Conspicuously Absent said:
Excellent point - yet millions and millions do find it exciting to watch on TV, and it's as much about national pride as it is entertainment. Each game is like living history in the making to those watching it. The U.S. does not have that sense of living history, so we have to rely on entertainment value alone, which to this point hasn't been enough. *BUT*, with more and more people in the U.S. physically playing every day, more and more people are becoming aware that it IS entertaining to play. And that's a start, because the more people playing, the more families out there cheering on family members, where there's at least a sense of individual pride. I do see the culture heading to national pride in the future - when that is, I have no idea.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
I know you don't. But even I, who hate our friggin government, get a little annoyed with the constant (or at least somewhat regular) America bashing.Conspicuously Absent said:
I know. I'm just blowing off a bit of steam.Conspicuously Absent said:
Agreed... mostly. I'll say this, we are a shadow of what we should/could be, and that saddens/sickens me. We have such potential for greatness, and we squander it because we can't see the forrest throught the trees.Conspicuously Absent said:
Zod
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
General Zod said:
Reading posts like this serves to remind me as why I respect your opinions so much, no matter how much I agree or disagree with them. You are a realist and make informed observations in addition to contributing your own thoughts based upon them.
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Dark One said:
LOL. I was actually thinking about just that as I was typing it.Dark One said:
Zod
Conspicuously Absent
Linguistically Confused
yeah, but you know what. It's hard not to bash the bully when he's constantly coming into your house and doing his thing.
I know not all americans are like the ones that travel up here. I happen to be very good friends with a number of you, and know of many more who aren't like that either. That said, MANY, and the culture as a whole, is as we say it.
I know not all americans are like the ones that travel up here. I happen to be very good friends with a number of you, and know of many more who aren't like that either. That said, MANY, and the culture as a whole, is as we say it.
Dark One said:
Bingo.
And you know what, it's not even as if you really are "thumbing your nose", it's just the perception. That's the whole thing about the USA -- it's all perception. It needs an image consultant or something, I dunno.
I know, but here I was in NYC rooting for the US team...surrounded by other "non-Americans". Jeebus, it's like where is everyone!!? My co-workers are joining in the fun at least and we've got the world map posted up on the wall so everyone knows where all the countries are from etc.
Yes. YES!
Exactly. There are non-Americans right here on this board that have zero interest.
Jason - you read me loud and clear.
Right, back to the match that England could quite possibly lose if they continue playing like this....
cthulufhtagn
Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago
seconded. can't i not give a flying fuck about soccer without being branded as some kind of isolationist bully? even for somebody who has as much beef with this country as i do, this kind of generalization really raises my hackles.General Zod said:
don't lump me in with Them.FUCK SPORTS
Conspicuously Absent
Linguistically Confused
cthulufhtagn
Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago
i just don't see the connection between soccer and international goodwill
europeans: i don't mean to thumb my nose at other people's sporting trad--wait. yes. yes i do. just like i thumb my nose at american sporting traditions. SPORTS ARE NOT FUCKING RELEVANT TO INTERNATIONAL POLITICS.
europeans: i don't mean to thumb my nose at other people's sporting trad--wait. yes. yes i do. just like i thumb my nose at american sporting traditions. SPORTS ARE NOT FUCKING RELEVANT TO INTERNATIONAL POLITICS.
Conspicuously Absent
Linguistically Confused
Yes, but anything that brings countries together is good for them. Thats their only relevance. But nobody in this thread was saying "because you don't like socker your isolationists". It's just one of numerous examples. Thats the point JK was making.
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