Animals vs. Humans

haha, I've never read a kind word written by Maren. Anyway, she's right, millions of people avoid meat for religious/spiritual reasons but calling them healthy is subjective. Sickly and weak is what I'd call them.
 
Meh, yeah, and my point of not being able to "tolerate" a diet without meat was just that. Eating a diet high in carbs and low in protein causes a hyper response of insulin, owing to a cyclical state of hypoglycemia, catabolism, and weakness. "High in carbs" and "low in protein" describes the typical vegetarian diet. Unless the person is hammering legumes by the mouthful, they are probably just barely meeting their protein requirements, and this is without getting into the endless array of amino acids, several of which are only available in a meat source.
To see what happens when you don't have enough protein, do a search for Kwashiorkor. These are the people who are vegetarian without choice; it's hardly healthy.
 
well Maren, I won't look for biochemistry book, cause it's under a big piles of other books, but it was pretty clear that you couldn't get all the essential proteins (essential means your body can make these proteins itself) from vegetables alone unless you have a very diverse diet. Also, since you need 1g of protein for every kg you weight, you would have to eat a pretty damn big bunch of grass before getting everything you need. Plus, I think my teacher said it could be pretty dangerous to be a vegetarian and suggested to have your portion of meat everyday. Nuts can solve a part of the problem, but even nuts don't provide all the proteins you need.

In other words, the medical word > you.

Dorian was right in his post. You, were not.
 
WATERBURY, Vt. (AP) -- Mooove over, Holsteins. PETA wants world-famous Ben & Jerry's Homemade Ice Cream to tap nursing moms, rather than cows, for the milk used in its ice cream.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is asking the ice cream maker to begin using breast milk in its products instead of cow's milk, saying it would reduce the suffering of cows and calves and give ice cream lovers a healthier product.

The idea got a cool reception Thursday from Ben & Jerry's officials, the company's customers and even La Leche League International, the world's oldest breast-feeding support organization, which promotes the practice - for babies, anyway.

PETA wrote a letter to company founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield on Tuesday, telling them cow's milk is hazardous and that milking them is cruel.

"If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers - and cows - would reap the benefits," wrote Tracy Reiman, executive vice president of the animal rights advocacy group. She said dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies and obesity.

Ashley Byrne, a campaign coordinator for PETA, acknowledged the implausibility of substituting breast milk for cow's milk, but said it's no stranger than humans consuming the milk of another species.

"We're aware this idea is somewhat absurd, and that putting it into practice is a stretch. At the time same, it's pretty absurd for us to be drinking the milk of cows," she said.

It takes about 12 pounds - or 1 1/2 gallons of milk - to make a gallon of ice cream. Ben & Jerry's, which gets its milk exclusively from Vermont cows, won't say how much milk it uses or how much ice cream it sells.

As a standardized product under federal regulations, ice cream must be made with milk from healthy cows. Ice cream made from goat's milk, for example, would have to be labeled as such.

Presumably, so would mother's milk ice cream.

To Ben & Jerry's, the idea is udderly ridiculous.

"We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child," spokesman Sean Greenwood said in an e-mail. He didn't respond to requests for an interview.

Leon Berthiaume, general manager of the St. Albans Cooperative Creamery, which provides milk products to Ben & Jerry's, called the dairy products "among the safest in the world."

"Milk from cows has long-term health benefits and has been proven to be safe and healthy and an important part of the American diet for generations," he said. "I'm not ready to make that change."

Cow's milk and mother's milk aren't interchangeable, according to La Leche spokeswoman Jane Crouse, who says breast milk is a dynamic substance that's different with each woman and each child and might have difficulty being processed into ice cream.

Then there's the question of who would provide the milk, and whether they'd be paid.

"Some women feel compelled to donate milk to a milk bank for adopted babies, or for someone who's ill or unable to breast feed. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence about sisters who nurse each others' babies. There's a population of women very willing to share their milk. Whether there's enough to do it for a commercial entity, who can say?" she said.

At the Ben & Jerry's factory in Waterbury, consumers gave a collective "Ehttp://www" to the idea Thursday.

"It's kind of creepy," said Jeff Waugh, 42, of Dayton, Ohio.

"I think it's a little nutty," said the Rev. Roger Wooton, 83, of Malden, Mass., finishing up a cup of Heath Bar Crunch.

"How would they get all that milk?" said his wife, Jane Wooton, 77.

Jen Wahlbrink, 34, of Phoenix, who breast-fed her 11-month-old son, Cameron, said she wouldn't touch ice cream made from mother's milk. She remembers her nursing days - and not that fondly.

"The (breast) pumps just weren't that much fun. You really do feel like a cow," she said, cradling her son in her hands.
 
Milk Moms instead of Cows!

Jerry, you could sign up to impregnate them (because as with cows, they gotta get knocked up to produce milk). We could shove the offspring into dark cupboards, pump em full of drugs and call them Veal COmmandos.

PETA is a great amusing joke, if it wasn't so depressing ot see that level of stupidity in someone supposedly in the same species.
 
I really don't think vermin will be much of a threat.

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These two dogs were in my yard today and I went out and yelled at them to go home.....so they started humping.
 
I think that's Texas. I just prefer that dogs don't shit in my yard. That and I don't want my 3 year old to be eaten by some redneck's canine.