Any good mastering tips??

I agree but I don't think he wants to do that professionally (which in this case involve a lot of knowledge and material [as mixing does]) but more how to "finish" a mix with an effective but not perfect mastering (as a Pro could do) to give the mix some justice for the people who will hear it.

In my case, when I first presented my mixes to my band, they where "wtf is that?!?" then after a few explication and a light mastering, even if it was no pro at all, there were more like :kickass: When you are a lot into production and technical aspects etc, you can forget how people who actually know nothing about it listen to music (this is why some ugly works can be successful :ill:)

I stay with my advice: try oZOne by yourself, and yes... use the search function if you have not a precise question that was not answered before. :cry:

I understand perfectly what you mean, but that's not my point. If you want to develop a skillset - which obviously is the OP's case - you need to put at least some time and effort in it. Reading one very simply written book on a very complex and deep subject to get a basic grasp of the craft shouldn't be too much effort. I think I paid 29€ for my copy, which is a fragment of Ozone 4's price, and it will provide a significant improvement judging from the original post in this thread. Besides, the guy already has some Waves plugins, so chances are he already has a perfectly good toolset to get started.

Regarding the professional remark I made, the musicians and artists very seldom know what mastering actually means, and with things being the way they are, they often end up with someone who offers "professional mastering" but doesn't actually have a decent grasp of the process himself. I've personally witnessed lots of these cases, and you can guess the results. The artist might never even realize what's wrong, they're just happy with the WAV files the "ME" sent them. This leads to more and more difficulties to get the artists understand why it's actually a great idea to pay more for proper, quality mastering.

Maybe I'm just being a nitpicking, cynical cunt (well, I am :lol:), but in my eyes it's things like this that devaluate our craft. Even if one wants to do the whole mixing or mastering thingamajic as a fun hobby, it shouldn't be such a huge deal to do some homework on the subject. I mean, if you want to pick up chemistry as a hobby, you probably won't just start mixing up funny-looking ingredients without knowing what's going to happen. You're going to study the subject, and in the end, you will enjoy the hobby a lot more.
 
I beg to differ.



I beg to differ.



I beg to differ.



I beg to... wait, am I repeating myself here?

To the op (and, well, everyone), buy and read Bob Katz's Mastering Audio. Seriously. Now. You'll learn a metric fuck-ton more than you will from asking such a question here.

What surprises me every single time here is how people talk about mastering and completely disregard the non-sonic side of it. It's not just EQ'ing and making dem trackz loud as fuk. In fact, I've seen people offering professional mastering services and a bit later asking what they need proper sequencing and burning software for, what ISRC codes are and so on and so on. Mastering isn't magic, but it's a very involved process that requires a lot more technical knowledge than people often think.

I suppose the OP wasn't referring to Album Mastering.
 
I suppose the OP wasn't referring to Album Mastering.

Obviously not, but my point still stands. Katz's book is still a very valid suggestion, as it covers pretty much all sides of the art. The first thing the reader probably realizes is to forget the "I think I'll use some EQ, multiband compression and limiting though I haven't really listened and decided if the material needs it"-mentality, which every single one of has been quilty of at one point or another. This might sound like a sales pitch here, but honestly, it's just a friendly suggestion that I'm sure will help anyone improve :)

The last paragraph of my post wasn't related straight to the OP, but a general observation on this board as well as others. And if we go into nit-picking, the quotes you bolded are still valid if we're only talking about a single song for internet distribution, as digital download sites use ISRC coding as well and proper software is still needed for implementing them ;)
 
I just happen to dislike blatant liars. You simply can't say you searched for this and didn't find anything. Everytime someone makes a new thread about mastering or mixing bass, it gets harder for us who actually search for the info instead of expect it to be spoonfed directly to us to search for it cause we have to read through a thousand repeated threads with little information until we find the two or three really useful ones. I think my concern is valid and "mature", or not?

Im far from a liar and you try search mastering?? There isnt one thread on mastering...cause no one but a few know anything about it and people like you who have no idea themselves wanna leave senseless remarks.. You think i wanna search a thread about some kids mix to read about some compression on the master bus?? You need to leave this forum..
 
Thanks for proving my point

Click his link before posting. And in that link you'll notice you're right. There isnt 1 thread on mastering. Theres 10 PAGES of threads with different mastering tips in all of them.

Edit- after looking even you yourself now have 2 threads asking about mastering. BTW I found that out using the SEARCH FUNCTION
 
doclegion said:
Im far from a liar and you try search mastering?? There isnt one thread on mastering...cause no one but a few know anything about it and people like you who have no idea themselves wanna leave senseless remarks.. You think i wanna search a thread about some kids mix to read about some compression on the master bus?? You need to leave this forum..

You're only sinking yourself deeper bud. You don't even make sense. Want a quick, easy answer from a real pro who lives off of mastering? Buy the book instead of asking here as 14million have already done, and it's hard to find accurate information thanks to dumbasses like yourself who keep making threads on the subject which lead to nothing
 
You're only sinking yourself deeper bud. You don't even make sense. Want a quick, easy answer from a real pro who lives off of mastering? Buy the book instead of asking here as 14million have already done, and it's hard to find accurate information thanks to dumbasses like yourself who keep making threads on the subject which lead to nothing

You dont know what your talking about so just stop..your no one special
A suggestion on a book was all i was looking for thanks for that..We need less arrogant cocky people like you here.. People like yourself turn forums into nothing but long arguments that go no where when you personally (since your 1 of 14 million that have a book) could have just said (try this book out its real cool) in the first place.. seriously your being an asshole..and i hate people like you that detour other people from learning and posting questions..

And my other thread on mastering?? Did you read anything in that?? still didnt have any good usefull information all i was looking for was a book or a site and i figure the rest out.. Sorry but There is no useful knowledge on this forum about mastering for me..

Everyone who actually helped give something usefull about the subject thank you.. There should be a sticky on mastering not a guitar competition :headbang:
 
First time I hopped on the Sneap forum in a couple of weeks.
First thread I click on is this one and now I remember all the negativity on this forum is what drove me away.

too much shit to filter through to find the goods