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El Stormo
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If you didn't notice, last week they finally released Daggerfall for free online... still gotta use DosBOX but it works great.
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Morganna
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That one is really beautiful. Also, I've played Morrowind, but never got around to Dagger fall for some reason. There was a huge gap in time where I quit playing video games. Holy shit for free, I might have to check ole Dagger fall out.
Morganna
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I know it drives you wild when I don't double quote it. But I had to look at the daggerfall first.
On this drawing I think its your most dynamic yet. Its composition is great, and I love the different textures, and especially that expression .
El Stormo
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That one is really beautiful. Also, I've played Morrowind, but never got around to Dagger fall for some reason. There was a huge gap in time where I quit playing video games. Holy shit for free, I might have to check ole Dagger fall out.
Thank you, and I can abide a double-post if it's dedicated to effusive praiseI know it drives you wild when I don't double quote it. But I had to look at the daggerfall first.
On this drawing I think its your most dynamic yet. Its composition is great, and I love the different textures, and especially that expression .
El Stormo
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I've been trying to let go of my insecurities and getting some higher contrasts and values in there. I've also tried blending some more to get that @#%ing paper tooth out of there. This is the result so far. Anyone got any advice or things to point out?
Morganna
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Its starting to look gorgeous Stormie. I can throw some stuff at you about the tooth thing though.
You might have a hatching style so I don't know how this is gonna work, but I gotta throw out what I know.
On the shading, I use light feathery circular motions. I go over that again with the appropriate pencil grade. If I'm doing really light skin tones, I like to bevel a 5H to get a flat smooth side, and lightly tone the paper with that. Sometimes I barely touch the paper. On miniature drawing, I've layered the tone this way and worked my way through value gradations, so that I didn't have to blend. One false move on something that is no larger then two inches, and you had smudged out the persons face! You can really get some cool affects like this if you say, "Im only going to use four values" And stick to them. I generally do this until the tooth is full.
I also sometimes use on portraits the Bristol vellum smooth paper, because it doesn't have a whole lot of tooth to begin with. Kind of depends on what is being tackled here. And since paper will drastically change the look, I like to mix it up a bit.
If your blending a face, an adult face that is, your not going to want it super duper smooth, unless your looking for that polished porcelain look. Use a light hand with the pencil, you can always add value in by slowly getting it there, and tweaking, and blend in the direction of the form. You can get allot of value gradations for free like this too, and then darken the darks as you go along. Now, the darker pencil grade will always blend better then the light. That is why I go really gradual when I'm dealing with those pesky H pencils, or not so heavy handed with the lighter scale of the B's either.
Real toothy paper is going to be a real butt hole, but if you want a nearly black area, you could use charcoal, dust it off, and then use a dark B grade over that in pencil. You can put pencil over charcoal but not the other way around. It looks like velvet. Oh, when I do this I use natural willow or vine charcoal sticks since the compressed is blacker then I want it.
eh, I got a little wordy on this one so I hope it makes sense. But, the last advice, if the blending keeps pissing you off try experimenting with different paper types.
You might have a hatching style so I don't know how this is gonna work, but I gotta throw out what I know.
On the shading, I use light feathery circular motions. I go over that again with the appropriate pencil grade. If I'm doing really light skin tones, I like to bevel a 5H to get a flat smooth side, and lightly tone the paper with that. Sometimes I barely touch the paper. On miniature drawing, I've layered the tone this way and worked my way through value gradations, so that I didn't have to blend. One false move on something that is no larger then two inches, and you had smudged out the persons face! You can really get some cool affects like this if you say, "Im only going to use four values" And stick to them. I generally do this until the tooth is full.
I also sometimes use on portraits the Bristol vellum smooth paper, because it doesn't have a whole lot of tooth to begin with. Kind of depends on what is being tackled here. And since paper will drastically change the look, I like to mix it up a bit.
If your blending a face, an adult face that is, your not going to want it super duper smooth, unless your looking for that polished porcelain look. Use a light hand with the pencil, you can always add value in by slowly getting it there, and tweaking, and blend in the direction of the form. You can get allot of value gradations for free like this too, and then darken the darks as you go along. Now, the darker pencil grade will always blend better then the light. That is why I go really gradual when I'm dealing with those pesky H pencils, or not so heavy handed with the lighter scale of the B's either.
Real toothy paper is going to be a real butt hole, but if you want a nearly black area, you could use charcoal, dust it off, and then use a dark B grade over that in pencil. You can put pencil over charcoal but not the other way around. It looks like velvet. Oh, when I do this I use natural willow or vine charcoal sticks since the compressed is blacker then I want it.
eh, I got a little wordy on this one so I hope it makes sense.
But, the last advice, if the blending keeps pissing you off try experimenting with different paper types.
El Stormo
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I'm already using Bristol smooth, so it's not the paper that's the problem.
As for the pencils, I'll try the things you suggested, thanks a whole lot!
As for the pencils, I'll try the things you suggested, thanks a whole lot!
derek
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Morganna
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going good dude!
What have you been blending with Stormie? and which pencil grades are you using over yonder?
What have you been blending with Stormie? and which pencil grades are you using over yonder?
Bacchante
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Second WIP. Blending sure is a bitch
The last piece you completed is amazing, but this is also beautiful!
I almost like the darker rendition due to the deeper contrast, but I understand your desire to blend blend blend. It looks like you lost much of your darker values on your smudge tool, though, which is giving the piece an overall gray tone. Having the contrast between shadows and highlights adds a more 3D look.
But starting slowly is awwright, mang.
Once again, I'm obsessed with using soft charcoal...I guess that makes us polar opposites
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Alright, I'll see what I can do about the contrast, thanks!
I use tortillons to blend (don't know what they're called in English, or even my language, I just know the French name), those paper blenders you can buy at an art store. As for pencils, I only use a 2B pencil, because with my *ahem* not-so-modest shading skills, I can use one pencil to get any shade I want. It's just the tooth that bugs me.going good dude!
What have you been blending with Stormie? and which pencil grades are you using over yonder?
