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COMMENT | I honestly thought
posted by: Satans Ice Cream Truck
3/10/2003 2:19:25 PM
it would be alot heavier, it's a rock record. Not a metal record, as many would expect. When I have the time, and for the right price I'll pick it up. For me, it does not scream "buy me!!!!". We'll see in time if this is a classic or just major hype.
COMMENT | COOL! I DON'T CARE IF THE ALBUM AIN'T THE BEST
posted by: STAMBY
3/10/2003 2:21:21 PM
IT IS STILL COOL TO SEE A GOOD OLD BAND BACK!BETTER THAN A MILLION OTHERS NO MATTER WHAT NEW SHIT IS LIKE!AM I WRONG?
COMMENT | This album kicks ass!
posted by: LivingEvil
3/10/2003 2:37:27 PM
I just bought this ablum and it's awesome.Definately the best album of the year!
COMMENT | garbage
posted by: jazzsnob
3/10/2003 3:23:28 PM
yeah, this album sucks. it is definitely rock, not metal. when the first song kicks in all i could think was "cockrock". i'm not saying the album is cockrock, but the first songs starts off and you're not sure what time period you're in for a second. just because something is fast and uses distortion doesn't make it metal. i wouldn't buy this if you paid me. i listened to it twice and couldn't even get through it the second time. my ears couldn't take it anymore. if you can, download first because you may get what you don't expect if you purchase it coldly.
COMMENT | Voivod fans rejoice...
posted by: The Coroner
3/10/2003 3:47:24 PM
If you're a fan of Nothingface or Angel Rat, you will LOVE this album as I do. In NO way did they 'sell out' or become a 'rock' band. It retains the classic (if not thrashing of the 'War and Pain' days) Voivod sound.
At first listen I didn't really care for it, but as I continued to give it the benefit of the doubt (something many listeners are too short-sighted to do these days) I'm happy that I did.
The album is fucking AWESOME. I'd have to say 'Rebel Robot' is my favorite track.
A job well done, and it completely BLOWS AWAY anything Shitallica has done since 1988.
...there's a little matrix in all of us...
COMMENT | Have to disagree with you there!
posted by: noleafclover
3/10/2003 4:59:43 PM
I'm not much of a Metallica fan, but if you are comparing load and reload to this new voivod then this album MUST suck! Saying its better than those albums is not saying much.
Oh yeah and by the way, the Black album blows this album away! Let's be honest people.
COMMENT | The unknown knows voivodfan.com
posted by: warcorpse
3/10/2003 5:07:01 PM
Piggy is the best guitarist in the world! Go buy the new Voivod CD. Also if you don't own Killing Technology or Dimension Hatross you are missing two of the most important CDs in metal.
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voivodfan.com has rare Voivod mp3s and also cool video downloads like "Ravenous Medicine", "Voivod", "Ripping Headaches".
COMMENT | Voivod is amazing
posted by: Diggedy Dave
3/10/2003 6:08:26 PM
The review is pretty much right on target, except that it fails to point out that no two Voivod records are exactly alike. I liken this one to a combination of Phobos, Nothingface, and Outer Limits.
My opinion as a Voivod fan is biased...I think the record is beyond killer. Many of the hooks are permanently wired into my head already! Newsted's bass sounds raunchy as hell, Piggy's tone is better then ever, Snake's voice is fucking creepy, and Away remains one of the most original drummers. Holy artwork, too!
If you're in, I'm in!
This IS real again!!!
COMMENT | My 2 cents
posted by: KB
3/10/2003 6:32:47 PM
All this talk about the record being a rock album is garbage. This is METAL. At times it definately has a rock vibe to it, but there's nothing wrong with metal incorporating rock into it. Shit, that's where metal got its roots. The Voivod album is one of the most solid efforts this band has put out since Nothingface and blows away any Metallica after Justice. Voivod is the real deal.
COMMENT | Vive VOIVOD
posted by: puffdallaire
3/10/2003 7:00:21 PM
The best metal album so far this year! It's kickin' Metallica's ass big fn' time!!!
COMMENT | Incredible Album
posted by: ssuyk
3/10/2003 7:13:07 PM
This is by far the best album I've heard in years - NO KIDDING! This album kills from start to finish but the second half of the album is better than the first. I didn't think that they had a chance of putting out something this good but they proved me wrong.
If I had to describe the album to someone who's yet to hear it but knows Voivod I'd say it's a mix. Start with some Nothingface, throw in a little Outer Limits, toss in a little Angel Rat, and sprinkle a bit of Phobos on top. These guys are unbelievable. They have managed to put out yet another truly original album. This is certainly better than Phobos, Negatron, and The Outer Limits but it would be a stretch to say it's better than Nothingface or Dimension Hatross. The fact that it's over 60 minutes of music without any filler speaks volumes!
Great job Voivod!
COMMENT | one more thing...
posted by: ssuyk
3/10/2003 7:14:34 PM
This is a metal album. The reviewer is foolish to say that it picks up where The Outer Limits left off. That's just flat out wrong. Obviously, he/she forgot to listen to the whole album.
COMMENT | album of the year so far ...
posted by: relu
3/10/2003 9:08:53 PM
The above review is filled with contradictions. I do know that Don Kaye has been doing reviews at least for the last 15 years and I trust his judgement, but looking at that review it is a misrepresentation on what is on the record.
The record has instant hooks and an amazing production. Voivod has always been an aquired taste. You either like them or hate them. But I think this is the only record in their reportoire that can make a convert out of a skeptic.
Not a filler track in sight ...
COMMENT | snake is back
posted by: destruction
3/10/2003 10:00:19 PM
I have been a fan since the start.that is long fucking time ago.i have a play list from war and pain (mini tour) if you can even call it that 80 people or so.i love voi vod very much.they (do there own thing).for a fucking long ass time now.don't think the $$$ has ever been the subject.now with jason mabye they will finally get some.glad to hear snake.fuck that review.snake can sing at my funeral..vvvvoooooiiii vvvvoooooddddd!!!!!!
COMMENT | totally accurate review.
posted by: truthrains
3/10/2003 11:03:41 PM
that review said it all. to sum up, snake sucks REALLY bad, piggy is awesome, gaysonic is in the background and away is adequate. the songs sound like bad janes addiction with better guitar , parallel vocals heavier drumming and insignificant bass playing.
COMMENT | not bad.....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/11/2003 12:01:34 AM
.....from what i've heard so far. The few songs i have listened to from this album are pretty good, much better than newsted's former band.
Also, why do certain people continually put down on jason newsted by calling him stupid nicknames like "gaysonic." Face facts people, the man obliterates Cliff Burton.
Back the the record...i've heard the first five tracks on here. Very good stuff, though i think they could have done much better.
COMMENT | Voivod fan with some pros and cons
posted by: grandpa frog
3/11/2003 12:06:32 AM
Been a fan for a long time, and I was looking forward to this album for as long as everybody hyped it. And my initial reaction was...It's good enough. In my opinion...Voivod are a steady balance between the three founding members (and nobody can replace Blacky...which is evident on this recording) the thing that puts Voivod over the top are Snake's vocals...and I mean that for better or worse. Reading some of these words, that were created by Snake, absolutely made me want to puke. All I could think is this guy completely "phoned it in." Is this the same person that created original quirky songs like "Macrosolutions to Megaproblems" to singing a song about playing in front of a crowd...ala Motley Crue's Kickstart my Heart? Or singing about "Flying Cigars...the COOLEST name for UFOS" most of the words feel forced and ingenuine, and whoever mixed the album left Snake too dry and unaffected. It feels almost sterile!
With all that said let me state the positive, There are many more points of light shining through, as most Voivod albums have on their third and fourth pass. I am finding many more redeeming qualities for this disc. The best cut currently to me is Divine Sun, Rebel Robot, and The Multiverse are also pretty good. This is honesty from a Voivod fan. I think many of these cuts will sound great live and I'm looking forward to seeing them sometime in the upcoming months.
COMMENT | VOIVOD IS BACK!
posted by: the Dude
3/11/2003 1:18:34 AM
True Voivod fans that know Angel Rat and Outer Limits as the best albums of their career will appreciate this one. I thought this day would never come after the awful experience of hearing Negatron, but thank God it did! Voivod rules!
COMMENT | really impressed
posted by: asere
3/11/2003 9:44:10 AM
wow!
This album is so good and original! As always VOIVOD has been... It sounds like NOTHING out there. (no pun intended)
I really love the atmosphere of the whole thing, pretty intense and eerie at the same time...
I'm pretty sure these guys will have finally (i really don't care if just because of Newsted) the recognition they long deserve.
And by the way you can try to call this whatever but don't let nobody fool you THIS IS METAL! in all the meanings and ways the genre can take cause this album is just as diverse...
Pure Joy...
COMMENT | vulvod...
posted by: loboquiddity
3/11/2003 10:07:12 AM
This cd is not that bad...but the singer has a limited singer...he sounds like a toned down Jello Biafra at times. It sounds like it was recorded in a garage. I bought the album and it's not that bad...just those 2 first oversights...beyond that it's good for a listen to while tipping back the bottle or packing the pipe.
COMMENT | Is.......
posted by: bjsrcool
3/11/2003 11:05:05 AM
Is Don Kaye still banging The Great Kat?
COMMENT | This Guys Review Is Shite
posted by: Kreator7
3/11/2003 12:07:22 PM
every dildo feels they have to go back to mention Voivods entire discography. Killing Tech is so ancient it has nothing to do with Voivods style on the last three Snake albums!
Who gives a shit about Eric? Snake is the man now, so why mention him?
This album is electrifying and catchy and will be way better than anything new Metallica does. Fucking Tool wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Voivod!
How can the Thrash authority and hip Metal News page publish such a crap review?
Fucking Retard!
COMMENT | ...
posted by: LikeSuicide
3/11/2003 1:22:54 PM
I really liked Nothingface, so I figured I'd give this album a shot and I'm glad that I did. This just goes to show that you can be heavy and still contain good melodies in your songs and not suck. Take notes, nu-metalers!
COMMENT | blah
posted by: Spiv2
3/11/2003 3:00:46 PM
i hate this fucking album.....listened to it once and deleted it...thank god for the internet...i would have hated to waste perfectly good money on this piece of shit album
p.s. the vocals sound like weird al trying to be serious
COMMENT | Only 7/10 rating?
posted by: Jarlaxle
3/11/2003 3:14:13 PM
Not a bad review at all. But, why rate it only 7? What's the criteria? I've seen lots of high ratings for mediocre albums on this site. IMO it's better to write just your review, not rate the albums at all. It is sometimes misleading.
Anyway, this album may not be a masterpeace but a great album for sure. This is the album that i was waiting for after the release of Outer Limits. Welcome back Snake!
Best album of the year so far, followed by The Haunted and Ministry's new albums.
BTW i'm surprised by the number of comments posted here. I didn't know there were so many Voivod fans. It must be the addition of Jason.
Thanks Jason for supporting Voivod. Finally, these guys are seeing some recognition thanks to you.
COMMENT | 7/10 was generous!!!!!
posted by: truthrains
3/11/2003 10:48:29 PM
that guy who said jason blows away cliff...ahh...that was a joke right???
lets see...kill em all, ride, and master vs. justice, black, load, reload... whatever you stupid fuckstick. the jason era sucked except for the cover songs and the jason era sucks with voivod. yeah its original...but it sucks thanks to snake primarily. i think phobos shits all over this new stuff to be honest. i agree, thank god for the internet so i don't have to waste my money on such tripe.
COMMENT | VOIVOD
posted by: ryanpday
3/12/2003 5:56:34 PM
Ya know....nobody would give 2 shits about Voivod if it weren't for Jason "Jasonic" Newsted. And....is "Jasonic" in Voivod or Ozzy Osbourne?!? I heard a few tunes from this record......not impressed. I think Lars Ulrich was right. Jason Newsted is "lost".
COMMENT | not surprissed!
posted by: RoMaN
3/12/2003 6:02:54 PM
well thats not something that suprissing, i didnt think this was gonna be the one that everybody was gonna talk about, the only question is will metallica dissapoint again???
probally!!!
COMMENT | there must be some mistake...
posted by: Lazer
3/12/2003 7:12:10 PM
Did someone say that Jasonic "obliterates Cliff burton."
I dont think even Jason would ever say that. Cliff Burton was an awesome bass player who had a lot to do with what a lot of people call "the good metallica."
In my opinion Jason is a good guy who is doing what he wants. In my opinion metallica rock and are doing what they like.
Oh, and by the way- me along with the millions of others have never even heard of Viovod- hence they only sold 3k copies in first week....
COMMENT | One week and a day later...
posted by: ssuyk
3/12/2003 10:51:05 PM
and the album just gets better and better. It's so great, as a fan, to have Snake back in the band. No offense to Eric Forest but their sound is so much better with Snake. I'm really looking forward to the tour.
It's amazing how creative they can still be. 2003 and they're still innovators!
Voivod - album of the year!
COMMENT | ....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/12/2003 11:46:33 PM
....yes, i did say jason is better than cliff. Cliff was little more than your typical thrash metal bassist (his so called "lead bass" style can be heard in countless thrash bands from Anthrax to Death). I think if jason had been given the opporitunity to actually write music in metallica, a lot of you would be singing a different tune.
COMMENT | jason vs cliff?
posted by: Denim Justice
3/13/2003 10:35:08 AM
firts of all jason is good, but to say cliff was "heard in countless thrash bands" i think is a little off the mark. Cliff was/is great,and was way ahead of the other "thrash" bass players of the time. This is my opinion, and i have not heard ALL the bass players out there, but i have not heard that style done better than cliff, and i cannot think of a anthrax song with a distorted bass sound like that. Cliff rocked man, he's one of the purest bass players with his own sound i can think of in heavy metal. Not considering geddy,stu hamm,billy sheehan, etc. there are ALOT of excellant bass players but he had a certain magic!
RIP CLIFF!!
COMMENT | Cliff
posted by: Lazer
3/13/2003 12:28:25 PM
Just because bands that follow a style does not lesson what was originally accomplished. Cliff Burton rocked, everyone knows that. Having known him I can tell you that he is still greatly missed.
And since Jason is such a kick ass song writer and bass player- why is it that all he is known for is riding other peoples waves?
i think he rocks, the bass in the Black Album is very powerful and strong- but I don't think he will ever be known for his amazing writing skills.
COMMENT | Jason Rocks
posted by: IR8Tribe
3/13/2003 12:28:30 PM
First off, Cliff Burton would have never sold out as did Metallica.. 2nd Jason should have never left Flotsam & Jetsam.They were way better than Metallica, But i cant blame him, Jason was always my favorite part of every Metallica show i have seen.. And at age 34 i have seen them a few more times than i could count.
I am just glad Jason has finally left them, He has way more talent to offer without them punk ass sell-outs..
I myself was never a big Voivod fan, But i like what i hear on this new one, and hope to see them come to Detroit for a show. Would rather see them than the LimpParkallicA tour @$75 plus 30% Ticket Master B.S service charge.. Come on people Boycott them high price shows,, or else they will continue overcharging you..
COMMENT | IR8vsSexoturica
posted by: IR8Tribe
3/13/2003 12:42:59 PM
Yes Jason does have some writing skills as he showed in his early years with Flotsam & Jetsam, Then about 9 years ago when i got my first Demo of IR8. I knew that Jason had some singing and playing skills. Now i feel that Jason really wants to show his talents, and that is why he had to leave Metallica, Hence the new release of IR8vs.Sexoturica,, I also feel fortunate that i was able to see him play with Echobrain last year, Jason did some shit with a bass i aint never seen, it was an awesome show.
COMMENT | 8.5/10
posted by: COSTRA
3/13/2003 3:04:19 PM
THE BEST ALBUM OF VOIVOD
COMMENT | Its still definitely metal
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 6:35:34 PM
I think this album is great. I like the songwriting better than Outer Limits and Angel Rat, it does sound somewhere in between which is strange after the very experimental Phobos.
COMMENT | People may not understand Voivod
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 6:38:48 PM
But that's what makes them so unique. I guess people don't like Progression unless its by the book. I'm surprised they've never played Prog Power because they're more prog than a bunch of helloween/queensryche/Dream theater clones
COMMENT | O.K.-THIRD LISTEN AND I LOVE IT!
posted by: STAMBY
3/13/2003 6:56:06 PM
TOOK A WHILE BUT IT GREW ON ME
COMMENT | FUCK THE NAYSAYERS
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 9:19:10 PM
VOIVOD RULES!
COMMENT | ahhh.....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/14/2003 12:05:27 AM
....okay, i will agree that burton's bass guitar did have a unique sound (perhaps it was just the tone of that Rickenbacker he played, or the amp sound maybe). However, his alledged "unique lead bass style" had been in metal since Iron Maiden. And as far as anthrax's frank bello using that particular style....give a listen to "spreading the disease." I liked burton's bass solo, i prefered the material metallica put out with him over the newsted era metallica, but i still think newsted is the superior bassist. Also, i think metallica and cliff burton would have sold out. Call me crazy, but i think they would have all still developed the money hungry rockstar attitude regardless of who was playing bass for them. Let's not forget that the majority of the writing after they ran out of mustaine era shit (after ride the lightning) was done by Hetfield and Ulrich. However, let me propose an interesting theory here. What if mustaine and burton had thrown hetfield out of the band and hired someone better? I wonder if they would have sold out then. Oh well, what a shame you can't change the course of history.
COMMENT |
posted by: The Outcast
3/14/2003 8:13:41 AM
this album is easily their best stuff since Nothingface... like a missing link between Nothingface and Outer Limits.
whomever says it ain't heavy is a total fuck.
attention newcomers it may take a few listens to get into but THIS IS VOIVOD... pure Voivod patterns.
go buy this album because this time they'll make it big.
do or die!
COMMENT | slipknotfails
posted by: Denim Justice
3/14/2003 2:17:27 PM
good points..i will listen to spreading the disease tonight, maybe i missed that. and the money thing..your probably right. hey IR8TRIBE..you going to OPETH????@ HARPO"S
COMMENT | Album is OK
posted by: biggusdickus
3/14/2003 6:55:18 PM
I'll listen to it some more to see if it grows, I think the music is great but the vocals are really giving me trouble. Seems a bit weak to jump into the fray with the major acts.
COMMENT | i like the album
posted by: You Don't Know Me
3/16/2003 7:55:23 AM
it's not the best thing ever but it's damn good.
as for Jason blowing away Cliff Burton i find that to be total bull. ever hear Cliff do a bass solo? 'nuff said.
but i think Jason was a good bass player in Metallica. you have to remember a majority of the songs written on ...And Justic For All through Reload were written by James and Lars. Jason. never had much say in the music. so if you want to blame anyone for Metallica gradually getting worse then blame James and Lars.
Jason is a good addition to Voivod. i'm sure they could picked someone a little better but he can hold his own.
COMMENT | Great Album!!
posted by: FlaKissFan
3/16/2003 8:09:25 PM
I won't argue about if it's a great album or not but you people who say it's not a metal album are a bunch of "speed metal" weenies who think anything lighter that Show No Mercy isn't metal. It's a great album in my opinion and a metal album which is a fact.
oh, and.....
COMMENT | I honestly thought
posted by: Satans Ice Cream Truck
3/10/2003 2:19:25 PM
it would be alot heavier, it's a rock record. Not a metal record, as many would expect. When I have the time, and for the right price I'll pick it up. For me, it does not scream "buy me!!!!". We'll see in time if this is a classic or just major hype.
COMMENT | COOL! I DON'T CARE IF THE ALBUM AIN'T THE BEST
posted by: STAMBY
3/10/2003 2:21:21 PM
IT IS STILL COOL TO SEE A GOOD OLD BAND BACK!BETTER THAN A MILLION OTHERS NO MATTER WHAT NEW SHIT IS LIKE!AM I WRONG?
COMMENT | This album kicks ass!
posted by: LivingEvil
3/10/2003 2:37:27 PM
I just bought this ablum and it's awesome.Definately the best album of the year!
COMMENT | garbage
posted by: jazzsnob
3/10/2003 3:23:28 PM
yeah, this album sucks. it is definitely rock, not metal. when the first song kicks in all i could think was "cockrock". i'm not saying the album is cockrock, but the first songs starts off and you're not sure what time period you're in for a second. just because something is fast and uses distortion doesn't make it metal. i wouldn't buy this if you paid me. i listened to it twice and couldn't even get through it the second time. my ears couldn't take it anymore. if you can, download first because you may get what you don't expect if you purchase it coldly.
COMMENT | Voivod fans rejoice...
posted by: The Coroner
3/10/2003 3:47:24 PM
If you're a fan of Nothingface or Angel Rat, you will LOVE this album as I do. In NO way did they 'sell out' or become a 'rock' band. It retains the classic (if not thrashing of the 'War and Pain' days) Voivod sound.
At first listen I didn't really care for it, but as I continued to give it the benefit of the doubt (something many listeners are too short-sighted to do these days) I'm happy that I did.
The album is fucking AWESOME. I'd have to say 'Rebel Robot' is my favorite track.
A job well done, and it completely BLOWS AWAY anything Shitallica has done since 1988.
...there's a little matrix in all of us...
COMMENT | Have to disagree with you there!
posted by: noleafclover
3/10/2003 4:59:43 PM
I'm not much of a Metallica fan, but if you are comparing load and reload to this new voivod then this album MUST suck! Saying its better than those albums is not saying much.
Oh yeah and by the way, the Black album blows this album away! Let's be honest people.
COMMENT | The unknown knows voivodfan.com
posted by: warcorpse
3/10/2003 5:07:01 PM
Piggy is the best guitarist in the world! Go buy the new Voivod CD. Also if you don't own Killing Technology or Dimension Hatross you are missing two of the most important CDs in metal.
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voivodfan.com has rare Voivod mp3s and also cool video downloads like "Ravenous Medicine", "Voivod", "Ripping Headaches".
COMMENT | Voivod is amazing
posted by: Diggedy Dave
3/10/2003 6:08:26 PM
The review is pretty much right on target, except that it fails to point out that no two Voivod records are exactly alike. I liken this one to a combination of Phobos, Nothingface, and Outer Limits.
My opinion as a Voivod fan is biased...I think the record is beyond killer. Many of the hooks are permanently wired into my head already! Newsted's bass sounds raunchy as hell, Piggy's tone is better then ever, Snake's voice is fucking creepy, and Away remains one of the most original drummers. Holy artwork, too!
If you're in, I'm in!
This IS real again!!!
COMMENT | My 2 cents
posted by: KB
3/10/2003 6:32:47 PM
All this talk about the record being a rock album is garbage. This is METAL. At times it definately has a rock vibe to it, but there's nothing wrong with metal incorporating rock into it. Shit, that's where metal got its roots. The Voivod album is one of the most solid efforts this band has put out since Nothingface and blows away any Metallica after Justice. Voivod is the real deal.
COMMENT | Vive VOIVOD
posted by: puffdallaire
3/10/2003 7:00:21 PM
The best metal album so far this year! It's kickin' Metallica's ass big fn' time!!!
COMMENT | Incredible Album
posted by: ssuyk
3/10/2003 7:13:07 PM
This is by far the best album I've heard in years - NO KIDDING! This album kills from start to finish but the second half of the album is better than the first. I didn't think that they had a chance of putting out something this good but they proved me wrong.
If I had to describe the album to someone who's yet to hear it but knows Voivod I'd say it's a mix. Start with some Nothingface, throw in a little Outer Limits, toss in a little Angel Rat, and sprinkle a bit of Phobos on top. These guys are unbelievable. They have managed to put out yet another truly original album. This is certainly better than Phobos, Negatron, and The Outer Limits but it would be a stretch to say it's better than Nothingface or Dimension Hatross. The fact that it's over 60 minutes of music without any filler speaks volumes!
Great job Voivod!
COMMENT | one more thing...
posted by: ssuyk
3/10/2003 7:14:34 PM
This is a metal album. The reviewer is foolish to say that it picks up where The Outer Limits left off. That's just flat out wrong. Obviously, he/she forgot to listen to the whole album.
COMMENT | album of the year so far ...
posted by: relu
3/10/2003 9:08:53 PM
The above review is filled with contradictions. I do know that Don Kaye has been doing reviews at least for the last 15 years and I trust his judgement, but looking at that review it is a misrepresentation on what is on the record.
The record has instant hooks and an amazing production. Voivod has always been an aquired taste. You either like them or hate them. But I think this is the only record in their reportoire that can make a convert out of a skeptic.
Not a filler track in sight ...
COMMENT | snake is back
posted by: destruction
3/10/2003 10:00:19 PM
I have been a fan since the start.that is long fucking time ago.i have a play list from war and pain (mini tour) if you can even call it that 80 people or so.i love voi vod very much.they (do there own thing).for a fucking long ass time now.don't think the $$$ has ever been the subject.now with jason mabye they will finally get some.glad to hear snake.fuck that review.snake can sing at my funeral..vvvvoooooiiii vvvvoooooddddd!!!!!!
COMMENT | totally accurate review.
posted by: truthrains
3/10/2003 11:03:41 PM
that review said it all. to sum up, snake sucks REALLY bad, piggy is awesome, gaysonic is in the background and away is adequate. the songs sound like bad janes addiction with better guitar , parallel vocals heavier drumming and insignificant bass playing.
COMMENT | not bad.....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/11/2003 12:01:34 AM
.....from what i've heard so far. The few songs i have listened to from this album are pretty good, much better than newsted's former band.
Also, why do certain people continually put down on jason newsted by calling him stupid nicknames like "gaysonic." Face facts people, the man obliterates Cliff Burton.
Back the the record...i've heard the first five tracks on here. Very good stuff, though i think they could have done much better.
COMMENT | Voivod fan with some pros and cons
posted by: grandpa frog
3/11/2003 12:06:32 AM
Been a fan for a long time, and I was looking forward to this album for as long as everybody hyped it. And my initial reaction was...It's good enough. In my opinion...Voivod are a steady balance between the three founding members (and nobody can replace Blacky...which is evident on this recording) the thing that puts Voivod over the top are Snake's vocals...and I mean that for better or worse. Reading some of these words, that were created by Snake, absolutely made me want to puke. All I could think is this guy completely "phoned it in." Is this the same person that created original quirky songs like "Macrosolutions to Megaproblems" to singing a song about playing in front of a crowd...ala Motley Crue's Kickstart my Heart? Or singing about "Flying Cigars...the COOLEST name for UFOS" most of the words feel forced and ingenuine, and whoever mixed the album left Snake too dry and unaffected. It feels almost sterile!
With all that said let me state the positive, There are many more points of light shining through, as most Voivod albums have on their third and fourth pass. I am finding many more redeeming qualities for this disc. The best cut currently to me is Divine Sun, Rebel Robot, and The Multiverse are also pretty good. This is honesty from a Voivod fan. I think many of these cuts will sound great live and I'm looking forward to seeing them sometime in the upcoming months.
COMMENT | VOIVOD IS BACK!
posted by: the Dude
3/11/2003 1:18:34 AM
True Voivod fans that know Angel Rat and Outer Limits as the best albums of their career will appreciate this one. I thought this day would never come after the awful experience of hearing Negatron, but thank God it did! Voivod rules!
COMMENT | really impressed
posted by: asere
3/11/2003 9:44:10 AM
wow!
This album is so good and original! As always VOIVOD has been... It sounds like NOTHING out there. (no pun intended)
I really love the atmosphere of the whole thing, pretty intense and eerie at the same time...
I'm pretty sure these guys will have finally (i really don't care if just because of Newsted) the recognition they long deserve.
And by the way you can try to call this whatever but don't let nobody fool you THIS IS METAL! in all the meanings and ways the genre can take cause this album is just as diverse...
Pure Joy...
COMMENT | vulvod...
posted by: loboquiddity
3/11/2003 10:07:12 AM
This cd is not that bad...but the singer has a limited singer...he sounds like a toned down Jello Biafra at times. It sounds like it was recorded in a garage. I bought the album and it's not that bad...just those 2 first oversights...beyond that it's good for a listen to while tipping back the bottle or packing the pipe.
COMMENT | Is.......
posted by: bjsrcool
3/11/2003 11:05:05 AM
Is Don Kaye still banging The Great Kat?
COMMENT | This Guys Review Is Shite
posted by: Kreator7
3/11/2003 12:07:22 PM
every dildo feels they have to go back to mention Voivods entire discography. Killing Tech is so ancient it has nothing to do with Voivods style on the last three Snake albums!
Who gives a shit about Eric? Snake is the man now, so why mention him?
This album is electrifying and catchy and will be way better than anything new Metallica does. Fucking Tool wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Voivod!
How can the Thrash authority and hip Metal News page publish such a crap review?
Fucking Retard!
COMMENT | ...
posted by: LikeSuicide
3/11/2003 1:22:54 PM
I really liked Nothingface, so I figured I'd give this album a shot and I'm glad that I did. This just goes to show that you can be heavy and still contain good melodies in your songs and not suck. Take notes, nu-metalers!
COMMENT | blah
posted by: Spiv2
3/11/2003 3:00:46 PM
i hate this fucking album.....listened to it once and deleted it...thank god for the internet...i would have hated to waste perfectly good money on this piece of shit album
p.s. the vocals sound like weird al trying to be serious
COMMENT | Only 7/10 rating?
posted by: Jarlaxle
3/11/2003 3:14:13 PM
Not a bad review at all. But, why rate it only 7? What's the criteria? I've seen lots of high ratings for mediocre albums on this site. IMO it's better to write just your review, not rate the albums at all. It is sometimes misleading.
Anyway, this album may not be a masterpeace but a great album for sure. This is the album that i was waiting for after the release of Outer Limits. Welcome back Snake!
Best album of the year so far, followed by The Haunted and Ministry's new albums.
BTW i'm surprised by the number of comments posted here. I didn't know there were so many Voivod fans. It must be the addition of Jason.
Thanks Jason for supporting Voivod. Finally, these guys are seeing some recognition thanks to you.
COMMENT | 7/10 was generous!!!!!
posted by: truthrains
3/11/2003 10:48:29 PM
that guy who said jason blows away cliff...ahh...that was a joke right???
lets see...kill em all, ride, and master vs. justice, black, load, reload... whatever you stupid fuckstick. the jason era sucked except for the cover songs and the jason era sucks with voivod. yeah its original...but it sucks thanks to snake primarily. i think phobos shits all over this new stuff to be honest. i agree, thank god for the internet so i don't have to waste my money on such tripe.
COMMENT | VOIVOD
posted by: ryanpday
3/12/2003 5:56:34 PM
Ya know....nobody would give 2 shits about Voivod if it weren't for Jason "Jasonic" Newsted. And....is "Jasonic" in Voivod or Ozzy Osbourne?!? I heard a few tunes from this record......not impressed. I think Lars Ulrich was right. Jason Newsted is "lost".
COMMENT | not surprissed!
posted by: RoMaN
3/12/2003 6:02:54 PM
well thats not something that suprissing, i didnt think this was gonna be the one that everybody was gonna talk about, the only question is will metallica dissapoint again???
probally!!!
COMMENT | there must be some mistake...
posted by: Lazer
3/12/2003 7:12:10 PM
Did someone say that Jasonic "obliterates Cliff burton."
I dont think even Jason would ever say that. Cliff Burton was an awesome bass player who had a lot to do with what a lot of people call "the good metallica."
In my opinion Jason is a good guy who is doing what he wants. In my opinion metallica rock and are doing what they like.
Oh, and by the way- me along with the millions of others have never even heard of Viovod- hence they only sold 3k copies in first week....
COMMENT | One week and a day later...
posted by: ssuyk
3/12/2003 10:51:05 PM
and the album just gets better and better. It's so great, as a fan, to have Snake back in the band. No offense to Eric Forest but their sound is so much better with Snake. I'm really looking forward to the tour.
It's amazing how creative they can still be. 2003 and they're still innovators!
Voivod - album of the year!
COMMENT | ....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/12/2003 11:46:33 PM
....yes, i did say jason is better than cliff. Cliff was little more than your typical thrash metal bassist (his so called "lead bass" style can be heard in countless thrash bands from Anthrax to Death). I think if jason had been given the opporitunity to actually write music in metallica, a lot of you would be singing a different tune.
COMMENT | jason vs cliff?
posted by: Denim Justice
3/13/2003 10:35:08 AM
firts of all jason is good, but to say cliff was "heard in countless thrash bands" i think is a little off the mark. Cliff was/is great,and was way ahead of the other "thrash" bass players of the time. This is my opinion, and i have not heard ALL the bass players out there, but i have not heard that style done better than cliff, and i cannot think of a anthrax song with a distorted bass sound like that. Cliff rocked man, he's one of the purest bass players with his own sound i can think of in heavy metal. Not considering geddy,stu hamm,billy sheehan, etc. there are ALOT of excellant bass players but he had a certain magic!
RIP CLIFF!!
COMMENT | Cliff
posted by: Lazer
3/13/2003 12:28:25 PM
Just because bands that follow a style does not lesson what was originally accomplished. Cliff Burton rocked, everyone knows that. Having known him I can tell you that he is still greatly missed.
And since Jason is such a kick ass song writer and bass player- why is it that all he is known for is riding other peoples waves?
i think he rocks, the bass in the Black Album is very powerful and strong- but I don't think he will ever be known for his amazing writing skills.
COMMENT | Jason Rocks
posted by: IR8Tribe
3/13/2003 12:28:30 PM
First off, Cliff Burton would have never sold out as did Metallica.. 2nd Jason should have never left Flotsam & Jetsam.They were way better than Metallica, But i cant blame him, Jason was always my favorite part of every Metallica show i have seen.. And at age 34 i have seen them a few more times than i could count.
I am just glad Jason has finally left them, He has way more talent to offer without them punk ass sell-outs..
I myself was never a big Voivod fan, But i like what i hear on this new one, and hope to see them come to Detroit for a show. Would rather see them than the LimpParkallicA tour @$75 plus 30% Ticket Master B.S service charge.. Come on people Boycott them high price shows,, or else they will continue overcharging you..
COMMENT | IR8vsSexoturica
posted by: IR8Tribe
3/13/2003 12:42:59 PM
Yes Jason does have some writing skills as he showed in his early years with Flotsam & Jetsam, Then about 9 years ago when i got my first Demo of IR8. I knew that Jason had some singing and playing skills. Now i feel that Jason really wants to show his talents, and that is why he had to leave Metallica, Hence the new release of IR8vs.Sexoturica,, I also feel fortunate that i was able to see him play with Echobrain last year, Jason did some shit with a bass i aint never seen, it was an awesome show.
COMMENT | 8.5/10
posted by: COSTRA
3/13/2003 3:04:19 PM
THE BEST ALBUM OF VOIVOD
COMMENT | Its still definitely metal
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 6:35:34 PM
I think this album is great. I like the songwriting better than Outer Limits and Angel Rat, it does sound somewhere in between which is strange after the very experimental Phobos.
COMMENT | People may not understand Voivod
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 6:38:48 PM
But that's what makes them so unique. I guess people don't like Progression unless its by the book. I'm surprised they've never played Prog Power because they're more prog than a bunch of helloween/queensryche/Dream theater clones
COMMENT | O.K.-THIRD LISTEN AND I LOVE IT!
posted by: STAMBY
3/13/2003 6:56:06 PM
TOOK A WHILE BUT IT GREW ON ME
COMMENT | FUCK THE NAYSAYERS
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 9:19:10 PM
VOIVOD RULES!
COMMENT | ahhh.....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/14/2003 12:05:27 AM
....okay, i will agree that burton's bass guitar did have a unique sound (perhaps it was just the tone of that Rickenbacker he played, or the amp sound maybe). However, his alledged "unique lead bass style" had been in metal since Iron Maiden. And as far as anthrax's frank bello using that particular style....give a listen to "spreading the disease." I liked burton's bass solo, i prefered the material metallica put out with him over the newsted era metallica, but i still think newsted is the superior bassist. Also, i think metallica and cliff burton would have sold out. Call me crazy, but i think they would have all still developed the money hungry rockstar attitude regardless of who was playing bass for them. Let's not forget that the majority of the writing after they ran out of mustaine era shit (after ride the lightning) was done by Hetfield and Ulrich. However, let me propose an interesting theory here. What if mustaine and burton had thrown hetfield out of the band and hired someone better? I wonder if they would have sold out then. Oh well, what a shame you can't change the course of history.
COMMENT |
posted by: The Outcast
3/14/2003 8:13:41 AM
this album is easily their best stuff since Nothingface... like a missing link between Nothingface and Outer Limits.
whomever says it ain't heavy is a total fuck.
attention newcomers it may take a few listens to get into but THIS IS VOIVOD... pure Voivod patterns.
go buy this album because this time they'll make it big.
do or die!
COMMENT | slipknotfails
posted by: Denim Justice
3/14/2003 2:17:27 PM
good points..i will listen to spreading the disease tonight, maybe i missed that. and the money thing..your probably right. hey IR8TRIBE..you going to OPETH????@ HARPO"S
COMMENT | Album is OK
posted by: biggusdickus
3/14/2003 6:55:18 PM
I'll listen to it some more to see if it grows, I think the music is great but the vocals are really giving me trouble. Seems a bit weak to jump into the fray with the major acts.
COMMENT | i like the album
posted by: You Don't Know Me
3/16/2003 7:55:23 AM
it's not the best thing ever but it's damn good.
as for Jason blowing away Cliff Burton i find that to be total bull. ever hear Cliff do a bass solo? 'nuff said.
but i think Jason was a good bass player in Metallica. you have to remember a majority of the songs written on ...And Justic For All through Reload were written by James and Lars. Jason. never had much say in the music. so if you want to blame anyone for Metallica gradually getting worse then blame James and Lars.
Jason is a good addition to Voivod. i'm sure they could picked someone a little better but he can hold his own.
COMMENT | Great Album!!
posted by: FlaKissFan
3/16/2003 8:09:25 PM
I won't argue about if it's a great album or not but you people who say it's not a metal album are a bunch of "speed metal" weenies who think anything lighter that Show No Mercy isn't metal. It's a great album in my opinion and a metal album which is a fact.
Ecstatic Youth
...playing with fire
FretsAflame
Undercover Shredder
War? I'm ready!!
*draws out three inch wang*
Who fucking wants some?
*legions of doom run screaming from the most hideous chode they have ever seen*
That's what i thought - i win the war, surrender your women.
*draws out three inch wang*
Who fucking wants some?
*legions of doom run screaming from the most hideous chode they have ever seen*
That's what i thought - i win the war, surrender your women.
MajestikMøøse
Membrum virile
FretsAflame
Undercover Shredder
Hey Guys,
You bloody cunts!!! I love Australia!!
Ex-VOIVOD Eric Forrest (lead singer and bassist) has a new band!!! It's fucking awesome!!!! It's called EFORCE and they have an album out "Evil forces".... The original line-up from Canada has changed as Eric moved to France, and the 2 new guitarists (from France) are gonna rock the next album... I like the 1rst album but the coming one... it's gonna be agressive, technical and heavy, look out!!!!
www.eforce.net
CHEERS
N
You bloody cunts!!! I love Australia!!
Ex-VOIVOD Eric Forrest (lead singer and bassist) has a new band!!! It's fucking awesome!!!! It's called EFORCE and they have an album out "Evil forces".... The original line-up from Canada has changed as Eric moved to France, and the 2 new guitarists (from France) are gonna rock the next album... I like the 1rst album but the coming one... it's gonna be agressive, technical and heavy, look out!!!!
www.eforce.net
CHEERS
N
posted by: Kreator7
3/11/2003 12:07:22 PM
every dildo feels they have to go back to mention Voivods entire discography. Killing Tech is so ancient it has nothing to do with Voivods style on the last three Snake albums!
Who gives a shit about Eric? Snake is the man now, so why mention him?
This album is electrifying and catchy and will be way better than anything new Metallica does. Fucking Tool wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Voivod!
How can the Thrash authority and hip Metal News page publish such a crap review?
Fucking Retard!
YOU FUCKING RETARD
the new voivod album is shit!!!! though, Piggy is a good guitarist
Mention Eric forest because he was replaced for shitty reasons, and left alone with body problems after he had a car accident because of Voivod van driver... they couldn't afford a bus so now they use Jason Newsted as a marketing power??? SHAME ON THEM, AND SHAME ON YOU Kreator7
Eric's new band's first album (EFORCE>> www.recordfinder.com/eforce ) is way better than new Voivod's new album, or any shit done by mettalica after the black album... check it out, on tour soon.....
3/11/2003 12:07:22 PM
every dildo feels they have to go back to mention Voivods entire discography. Killing Tech is so ancient it has nothing to do with Voivods style on the last three Snake albums!
Who gives a shit about Eric? Snake is the man now, so why mention him?
This album is electrifying and catchy and will be way better than anything new Metallica does. Fucking Tool wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Voivod!
How can the Thrash authority and hip Metal News page publish such a crap review?
Fucking Retard!
YOU FUCKING RETARD
the new voivod album is shit!!!! though, Piggy is a good guitarist
Mention Eric forest because he was replaced for shitty reasons, and left alone with body problems after he had a car accident because of Voivod van driver... they couldn't afford a bus so now they use Jason Newsted as a marketing power??? SHAME ON THEM, AND SHAME ON YOU Kreator7
Eric's new band's first album (EFORCE>> www.recordfinder.com/eforce ) is way better than new Voivod's new album, or any shit done by mettalica after the black album... check it out, on tour soon.....
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COMMENT | I honestly thought
posted by: Satans Ice Cream Truck
3/10/2003 2:19:25 PM
it would be alot heavier, it's a rock record. Not a metal record, as many would expect. When I have the time, and for the right price I'll pick it up. For me, it does not scream "buy me!!!!". We'll see in time if this is a classic or just major hype.
COMMENT | COOL! I DON'T CARE IF THE ALBUM AIN'T THE BEST
posted by: STAMBY
3/10/2003 2:21:21 PM
IT IS STILL COOL TO SEE A GOOD OLD BAND BACK!BETTER THAN A MILLION OTHERS NO MATTER WHAT NEW SHIT IS LIKE!AM I WRONG?
COMMENT | This album kicks ass!
posted by: LivingEvil
3/10/2003 2:37:27 PM
I just bought this ablum and it's awesome.Definately the best album of the year!
COMMENT | garbage
posted by: jazzsnob
3/10/2003 3:23:28 PM
yeah, this album sucks. it is definitely rock, not metal. when the first song kicks in all i could think was "cockrock". i'm not saying the album is cockrock, but the first songs starts off and you're not sure what time period you're in for a second. just because something is fast and uses distortion doesn't make it metal. i wouldn't buy this if you paid me. i listened to it twice and couldn't even get through it the second time. my ears couldn't take it anymore. if you can, download first because you may get what you don't expect if you purchase it coldly.
COMMENT | Voivod fans rejoice...
posted by: The Coroner
3/10/2003 3:47:24 PM
If you're a fan of Nothingface or Angel Rat, you will LOVE this album as I do. In NO way did they 'sell out' or become a 'rock' band. It retains the classic (if not thrashing of the 'War and Pain' days) Voivod sound.
At first listen I didn't really care for it, but as I continued to give it the benefit of the doubt (something many listeners are too short-sighted to do these days) I'm happy that I did.
The album is fucking AWESOME. I'd have to say 'Rebel Robot' is my favorite track.
A job well done, and it completely BLOWS AWAY anything Shitallica has done since 1988.
...there's a little matrix in all of us...
COMMENT | Have to disagree with you there!
posted by: noleafclover
3/10/2003 4:59:43 PM
I'm not much of a Metallica fan, but if you are comparing load and reload to this new voivod then this album MUST suck! Saying its better than those albums is not saying much.
Oh yeah and by the way, the Black album blows this album away! Let's be honest people.
COMMENT | The unknown knows voivodfan.com
posted by: warcorpse
3/10/2003 5:07:01 PM
Piggy is the best guitarist in the world! Go buy the new Voivod CD. Also if you don't own Killing Technology or Dimension Hatross you are missing two of the most important CDs in metal.
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voivodfan.com has rare Voivod mp3s and also cool video downloads like "Ravenous Medicine", "Voivod", "Ripping Headaches".
COMMENT | Voivod is amazing
posted by: Diggedy Dave
3/10/2003 6:08:26 PM
The review is pretty much right on target, except that it fails to point out that no two Voivod records are exactly alike. I liken this one to a combination of Phobos, Nothingface, and Outer Limits.
My opinion as a Voivod fan is biased...I think the record is beyond killer. Many of the hooks are permanently wired into my head already! Newsted's bass sounds raunchy as hell, Piggy's tone is better then ever, Snake's voice is fucking creepy, and Away remains one of the most original drummers. Holy artwork, too!
If you're in, I'm in!
This IS real again!!!
COMMENT | My 2 cents
posted by: KB
3/10/2003 6:32:47 PM
All this talk about the record being a rock album is garbage. This is METAL. At times it definately has a rock vibe to it, but there's nothing wrong with metal incorporating rock into it. Shit, that's where metal got its roots. The Voivod album is one of the most solid efforts this band has put out since Nothingface and blows away any Metallica after Justice. Voivod is the real deal.
COMMENT | Vive VOIVOD
posted by: puffdallaire
3/10/2003 7:00:21 PM
The best metal album so far this year! It's kickin' Metallica's ass big fn' time!!!
COMMENT | Incredible Album
posted by: ssuyk
3/10/2003 7:13:07 PM
This is by far the best album I've heard in years - NO KIDDING! This album kills from start to finish but the second half of the album is better than the first. I didn't think that they had a chance of putting out something this good but they proved me wrong.
If I had to describe the album to someone who's yet to hear it but knows Voivod I'd say it's a mix. Start with some Nothingface, throw in a little Outer Limits, toss in a little Angel Rat, and sprinkle a bit of Phobos on top. These guys are unbelievable. They have managed to put out yet another truly original album. This is certainly better than Phobos, Negatron, and The Outer Limits but it would be a stretch to say it's better than Nothingface or Dimension Hatross. The fact that it's over 60 minutes of music without any filler speaks volumes!
Great job Voivod!
COMMENT | one more thing...
posted by: ssuyk
3/10/2003 7:14:34 PM
This is a metal album. The reviewer is foolish to say that it picks up where The Outer Limits left off. That's just flat out wrong. Obviously, he/she forgot to listen to the whole album.
COMMENT | album of the year so far ...
posted by: relu
3/10/2003 9:08:53 PM
The above review is filled with contradictions. I do know that Don Kaye has been doing reviews at least for the last 15 years and I trust his judgement, but looking at that review it is a misrepresentation on what is on the record.
The record has instant hooks and an amazing production. Voivod has always been an aquired taste. You either like them or hate them. But I think this is the only record in their reportoire that can make a convert out of a skeptic.
Not a filler track in sight ...
COMMENT | snake is back
posted by: destruction
3/10/2003 10:00:19 PM
I have been a fan since the start.that is long fucking time ago.i have a play list from war and pain (mini tour) if you can even call it that 80 people or so.i love voi vod very much.they (do there own thing).for a fucking long ass time now.don't think the $$$ has ever been the subject.now with jason mabye they will finally get some.glad to hear snake.fuck that review.snake can sing at my funeral..vvvvoooooiiii vvvvoooooddddd!!!!!!
COMMENT | totally accurate review.
posted by: truthrains
3/10/2003 11:03:41 PM
that review said it all. to sum up, snake sucks REALLY bad, piggy is awesome, gaysonic is in the background and away is adequate. the songs sound like bad janes addiction with better guitar , parallel vocals heavier drumming and insignificant bass playing.
COMMENT | not bad.....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/11/2003 12:01:34 AM
.....from what i've heard so far. The few songs i have listened to from this album are pretty good, much better than newsted's former band.
Also, why do certain people continually put down on jason newsted by calling him stupid nicknames like "gaysonic." Face facts people, the man obliterates Cliff Burton.
Back the the record...i've heard the first five tracks on here. Very good stuff, though i think they could have done much better.
COMMENT | Voivod fan with some pros and cons
posted by: grandpa frog
3/11/2003 12:06:32 AM
Been a fan for a long time, and I was looking forward to this album for as long as everybody hyped it. And my initial reaction was...It's good enough. In my opinion...Voivod are a steady balance between the three founding members (and nobody can replace Blacky...which is evident on this recording) the thing that puts Voivod over the top are Snake's vocals...and I mean that for better or worse. Reading some of these words, that were created by Snake, absolutely made me want to puke. All I could think is this guy completely "phoned it in." Is this the same person that created original quirky songs like "Macrosolutions to Megaproblems" to singing a song about playing in front of a crowd...ala Motley Crue's Kickstart my Heart? Or singing about "Flying Cigars...the COOLEST name for UFOS" most of the words feel forced and ingenuine, and whoever mixed the album left Snake too dry and unaffected. It feels almost sterile!
With all that said let me state the positive, There are many more points of light shining through, as most Voivod albums have on their third and fourth pass. I am finding many more redeeming qualities for this disc. The best cut currently to me is Divine Sun, Rebel Robot, and The Multiverse are also pretty good. This is honesty from a Voivod fan. I think many of these cuts will sound great live and I'm looking forward to seeing them sometime in the upcoming months.
COMMENT | VOIVOD IS BACK!
posted by: the Dude
3/11/2003 1:18:34 AM
True Voivod fans that know Angel Rat and Outer Limits as the best albums of their career will appreciate this one. I thought this day would never come after the awful experience of hearing Negatron, but thank God it did! Voivod rules!
COMMENT | really impressed
posted by: asere
3/11/2003 9:44:10 AM
wow!
This album is so good and original! As always VOIVOD has been... It sounds like NOTHING out there. (no pun intended)
I really love the atmosphere of the whole thing, pretty intense and eerie at the same time...
I'm pretty sure these guys will have finally (i really don't care if just because of Newsted) the recognition they long deserve.
And by the way you can try to call this whatever but don't let nobody fool you THIS IS METAL! in all the meanings and ways the genre can take cause this album is just as diverse...
Pure Joy...
COMMENT | vulvod...
posted by: loboquiddity
3/11/2003 10:07:12 AM
This cd is not that bad...but the singer has a limited singer...he sounds like a toned down Jello Biafra at times. It sounds like it was recorded in a garage. I bought the album and it's not that bad...just those 2 first oversights...beyond that it's good for a listen to while tipping back the bottle or packing the pipe.
COMMENT | Is.......
posted by: bjsrcool
3/11/2003 11:05:05 AM
Is Don Kaye still banging The Great Kat?
COMMENT | This Guys Review Is Shite
posted by: Kreator7
3/11/2003 12:07:22 PM
every dildo feels they have to go back to mention Voivods entire discography. Killing Tech is so ancient it has nothing to do with Voivods style on the last three Snake albums!
Who gives a shit about Eric? Snake is the man now, so why mention him?
This album is electrifying and catchy and will be way better than anything new Metallica does. Fucking Tool wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Voivod!
How can the Thrash authority and hip Metal News page publish such a crap review?
Fucking Retard!
COMMENT | ...
posted by: LikeSuicide
3/11/2003 1:22:54 PM
I really liked Nothingface, so I figured I'd give this album a shot and I'm glad that I did. This just goes to show that you can be heavy and still contain good melodies in your songs and not suck. Take notes, nu-metalers!
COMMENT | blah
posted by: Spiv2
3/11/2003 3:00:46 PM
i hate this fucking album.....listened to it once and deleted it...thank god for the internet...i would have hated to waste perfectly good money on this piece of shit album
p.s. the vocals sound like weird al trying to be serious
COMMENT | Only 7/10 rating?
posted by: Jarlaxle
3/11/2003 3:14:13 PM
Not a bad review at all. But, why rate it only 7? What's the criteria? I've seen lots of high ratings for mediocre albums on this site. IMO it's better to write just your review, not rate the albums at all. It is sometimes misleading.
Anyway, this album may not be a masterpeace but a great album for sure. This is the album that i was waiting for after the release of Outer Limits. Welcome back Snake!
Best album of the year so far, followed by The Haunted and Ministry's new albums.
BTW i'm surprised by the number of comments posted here. I didn't know there were so many Voivod fans. It must be the addition of Jason.
Thanks Jason for supporting Voivod. Finally, these guys are seeing some recognition thanks to you.
COMMENT | 7/10 was generous!!!!!
posted by: truthrains
3/11/2003 10:48:29 PM
that guy who said jason blows away cliff...ahh...that was a joke right???
lets see...kill em all, ride, and master vs. justice, black, load, reload... whatever you stupid fuckstick. the jason era sucked except for the cover songs and the jason era sucks with voivod. yeah its original...but it sucks thanks to snake primarily. i think phobos shits all over this new stuff to be honest. i agree, thank god for the internet so i don't have to waste my money on such tripe.
COMMENT | VOIVOD
posted by: ryanpday
3/12/2003 5:56:34 PM
Ya know....nobody would give 2 shits about Voivod if it weren't for Jason "Jasonic" Newsted. And....is "Jasonic" in Voivod or Ozzy Osbourne?!? I heard a few tunes from this record......not impressed. I think Lars Ulrich was right. Jason Newsted is "lost".
COMMENT | not surprissed!
posted by: RoMaN
3/12/2003 6:02:54 PM
well thats not something that suprissing, i didnt think this was gonna be the one that everybody was gonna talk about, the only question is will metallica dissapoint again???
probally!!!
COMMENT | there must be some mistake...
posted by: Lazer
3/12/2003 7:12:10 PM
Did someone say that Jasonic "obliterates Cliff burton."
I dont think even Jason would ever say that. Cliff Burton was an awesome bass player who had a lot to do with what a lot of people call "the good metallica."
In my opinion Jason is a good guy who is doing what he wants. In my opinion metallica rock and are doing what they like.
Oh, and by the way- me along with the millions of others have never even heard of Viovod- hence they only sold 3k copies in first week....
COMMENT | One week and a day later...
posted by: ssuyk
3/12/2003 10:51:05 PM
and the album just gets better and better. It's so great, as a fan, to have Snake back in the band. No offense to Eric Forest but their sound is so much better with Snake. I'm really looking forward to the tour.
It's amazing how creative they can still be. 2003 and they're still innovators!
Voivod - album of the year!
COMMENT | ....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/12/2003 11:46:33 PM
....yes, i did say jason is better than cliff. Cliff was little more than your typical thrash metal bassist (his so called "lead bass" style can be heard in countless thrash bands from Anthrax to Death). I think if jason had been given the opporitunity to actually write music in metallica, a lot of you would be singing a different tune.
COMMENT | jason vs cliff?
posted by: Denim Justice
3/13/2003 10:35:08 AM
firts of all jason is good, but to say cliff was "heard in countless thrash bands" i think is a little off the mark. Cliff was/is great,and was way ahead of the other "thrash" bass players of the time. This is my opinion, and i have not heard ALL the bass players out there, but i have not heard that style done better than cliff, and i cannot think of a anthrax song with a distorted bass sound like that. Cliff rocked man, he's one of the purest bass players with his own sound i can think of in heavy metal. Not considering geddy,stu hamm,billy sheehan, etc. there are ALOT of excellant bass players but he had a certain magic!
RIP CLIFF!!
COMMENT | Cliff
posted by: Lazer
3/13/2003 12:28:25 PM
Just because bands that follow a style does not lesson what was originally accomplished. Cliff Burton rocked, everyone knows that. Having known him I can tell you that he is still greatly missed.
And since Jason is such a kick ass song writer and bass player- why is it that all he is known for is riding other peoples waves?
i think he rocks, the bass in the Black Album is very powerful and strong- but I don't think he will ever be known for his amazing writing skills.
COMMENT | Jason Rocks
posted by: IR8Tribe
3/13/2003 12:28:30 PM
First off, Cliff Burton would have never sold out as did Metallica.. 2nd Jason should have never left Flotsam & Jetsam.They were way better than Metallica, But i cant blame him, Jason was always my favorite part of every Metallica show i have seen.. And at age 34 i have seen them a few more times than i could count.
I am just glad Jason has finally left them, He has way more talent to offer without them punk ass sell-outs..
I myself was never a big Voivod fan, But i like what i hear on this new one, and hope to see them come to Detroit for a show. Would rather see them than the LimpParkallicA tour @$75 plus 30% Ticket Master B.S service charge.. Come on people Boycott them high price shows,, or else they will continue overcharging you..
COMMENT | IR8vsSexoturica
posted by: IR8Tribe
3/13/2003 12:42:59 PM
Yes Jason does have some writing skills as he showed in his early years with Flotsam & Jetsam, Then about 9 years ago when i got my first Demo of IR8. I knew that Jason had some singing and playing skills. Now i feel that Jason really wants to show his talents, and that is why he had to leave Metallica, Hence the new release of IR8vs.Sexoturica,, I also feel fortunate that i was able to see him play with Echobrain last year, Jason did some shit with a bass i aint never seen, it was an awesome show.
COMMENT | 8.5/10
posted by: COSTRA
3/13/2003 3:04:19 PM
THE BEST ALBUM OF VOIVOD
COMMENT | Its still definitely metal
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 6:35:34 PM
I think this album is great. I like the songwriting better than Outer Limits and Angel Rat, it does sound somewhere in between which is strange after the very experimental Phobos.
COMMENT | People may not understand Voivod
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 6:38:48 PM
But that's what makes them so unique. I guess people don't like Progression unless its by the book. I'm surprised they've never played Prog Power because they're more prog than a bunch of helloween/queensryche/Dream theater clones
COMMENT | O.K.-THIRD LISTEN AND I LOVE IT!
posted by: STAMBY
3/13/2003 6:56:06 PM
TOOK A WHILE BUT IT GREW ON ME
COMMENT | FUCK THE NAYSAYERS
posted by: Firewind
3/13/2003 9:19:10 PM
VOIVOD RULES!
COMMENT | ahhh.....
posted by: Slipknotfails
3/14/2003 12:05:27 AM
....okay, i will agree that burton's bass guitar did have a unique sound (perhaps it was just the tone of that Rickenbacker he played, or the amp sound maybe). However, his alledged "unique lead bass style" had been in metal since Iron Maiden. And as far as anthrax's frank bello using that particular style....give a listen to "spreading the disease." I liked burton's bass solo, i prefered the material metallica put out with him over the newsted era metallica, but i still think newsted is the superior bassist. Also, i think metallica and cliff burton would have sold out. Call me crazy, but i think they would have all still developed the money hungry rockstar attitude regardless of who was playing bass for them. Let's not forget that the majority of the writing after they ran out of mustaine era shit (after ride the lightning) was done by Hetfield and Ulrich. However, let me propose an interesting theory here. What if mustaine and burton had thrown hetfield out of the band and hired someone better? I wonder if they would have sold out then. Oh well, what a shame you can't change the course of history.
COMMENT |
posted by: The Outcast
3/14/2003 8:13:41 AM
this album is easily their best stuff since Nothingface... like a missing link between Nothingface and Outer Limits.
whomever says it ain't heavy is a total fuck.
attention newcomers it may take a few listens to get into but THIS IS VOIVOD... pure Voivod patterns.
go buy this album because this time they'll make it big.
do or die!
COMMENT | slipknotfails
posted by: Denim Justice
3/14/2003 2:17:27 PM
good points..i will listen to spreading the disease tonight, maybe i missed that. and the money thing..your probably right. hey IR8TRIBE..you going to OPETH????@ HARPO"S
COMMENT | Album is OK
posted by: biggusdickus
3/14/2003 6:55:18 PM
I'll listen to it some more to see if it grows, I think the music is great but the vocals are really giving me trouble. Seems a bit weak to jump into the fray with the major acts.
COMMENT | i like the album
posted by: You Don't Know Me
3/16/2003 7:55:23 AM
it's not the best thing ever but it's damn good.
as for Jason blowing away Cliff Burton i find that to be total bull. ever hear Cliff do a bass solo? 'nuff said.
but i think Jason was a good bass player in Metallica. you have to remember a majority of the songs written on ...And Justic For All through Reload were written by James and Lars. Jason. never had much say in the music. so if you want to blame anyone for Metallica gradually getting worse then blame James and Lars.
Jason is a good addition to Voivod. i'm sure they could picked someone a little better but he can hold his own.
COMMENT | Great Album!!
posted by: FlaKissFan
3/16/2003 8:09:25 PM
I won't argue about if it's a great album or not but you people who say it's not a metal album are a bunch of "speed metal" weenies who think anything lighter that Show No Mercy isn't metal. It's a great album in my opinion and a metal album which is a fact.
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Aecliptica
NOT FRANCOIS
COMMENT | I honestly thought
posted by: Satans Ice Cream Truck
3/10/2003 2:19:25 PM
it would be alot heavier, it's a rock record. Not a metal record, as many would expect. When I have the time, and for the right price I'll pick it up. For me, it does not scream "buy me!!!!". We'll see in time if this is a classic or just major hype.
posted by: Satans Ice Cream Truck
3/10/2003 2:19:25 PM
it would be alot heavier, it's a rock record. Not a metal record, as many would expect. When I have the time, and for the right price I'll pick it up. For me, it does not scream "buy me!!!!". We'll see in time if this is a classic or just major hype.
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