attn: greg

The long fuse thing and the being treated like shit thing make tons of sense, admittedly. However, my experience involved neither of those things. She had a fuse that was so short that lighting it meant you were going to lose some fingers and I treated the girl like gold and she will whole-heartedly admit that and endorse it, even now.
 
well sounds like she had some kind of personality disorder or mood disorder. or it could be that you always have that look on your face that's in your avatar.
 
0sm0se's expression in that picture is in reaction to my own disbelief at the sudden absence of hair atop his head, which had been there an hour earlier and had mysteriously vanished in the meanwhile. A sort of "AHH, I SHAVED MY HEAD WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY - I'M A FUCKING JACKASS!" kind of expression, I think.
 
minxnim said:
also: threatening self-harm or suicide is a great thing guys like to do.

I remember that kind of shit and other emotional blackmail tactics, but that was back in high school dudes, aeons ago... now I can't play games anymore with the ladies, it's all-out honesty or nuthin'. So mostly I get played like a romani fiddle. Oh and my feet smell like slightly sour honey, avocado and woodsmoke.
 
not that this is true in the_minxnim's case, but a lot of the time the whole "long fuse" thing creates the behaviour it supposedly responds to. if you let something slide once, twice, ten, twenty times, then you don't really have the right to suddenly get angry when it's done the twenty-first time. i think that's part of why guys say they're confused by women--because so many women do this.

"Well, I went running every morning the two years we were dating, and I've gone running every morning the two years we were married and then this morning my wife screamed at me and said I could never run again and she'd always hated it and finally I'd reached the end of her long fuse! I don't understand women!!!"

you establish unspoken rules in the relationship early on and each party tweaks their behaviour in order to conform to the rules their partner has established. if you don't nip intolerable behaviour in the bud, you pretty much forfeit your right to complain later.
 
xfer said:
you establish unspoken rules in the relationship early on and each party tweaks their behaviour in order to conform to the rules their partner has established. if you don't nip intolerable behaviour in the bud, you pretty much forfeit your right to complain later.

Word, Xfer, word.
 
having a long fuse doesn't mean NOT calling someone on it. it just means waiting to see if the person will stop after you've told them you don't like being treated badly. after they don't stop, you turn, like a fucking ninja on them and ruin their lives.
and they ask for it.
in fact they beg.
 
as an example: a friend of mine met this dude at a bar and took him home and they ended up kind of dating for several months. he was really bad news for her, an ex-con who had been in jail for killing somebody in a bar fight (he was out because he pled it down to manslaughter) who was a raging alcoholic and spent probably $800/week on coke (he slept in his truck because he didn't have an apartment and spent his whole $60k union salary on drugs every week).

one night early in the relationship he made a date for them to go out and then he just simply never showed up and never called. didn't forget or anything, just had other shit to do. she was like "okay, i'll let this one pass." it happened again, and the same thing. happened a few times. then a few more. she let a pattern establish.

so when she finally got pissed when he did it the 15th time, he was understandably surprised. he'd come to understand that the nature of their relationship was that it was okay to do that--and she had essentially told him he was right by not addressing it early on. we'd been telling her that for months, and nobody wanted to hear it when she acted like he had suddenly become intolerable for doing exactly what he had been doing for 24 weeks. least of all, i'm sure, him.

(thankfully they are apart now)
 
The disbelief stems from the fact that my hair had been longer than The Dope's for most of the tenure of our friendship. He went ahead of me to a party with some of our friends and I said I'd meet them there and then shaved my head immediately after they left. Most of the time, I sport a raised doubting, skeptical, sarcastic eyebrow.
 
well, the phrase CAN mean either of those--to you i'm positive it means the less-weak-willed one :), but to most people it unfortunately means the one i was talking about.
 
Ever since I started my job here 2 years ago, I've been coming in at 10 or later because the guy who trained me told me that it's not a big deal here.

Anyway they haven't really ever told me that I need to change that behavior but when they do, I'm ready to argue with the fact that the guy who trained me told me it was OK and gee if it had been a problem this whole time why didn't you say something earlier.
 
Toby, I'm the same way about getting to class 5 minutes late every morning. Except nobody ever really told me it was ok, I just started doing it and never had any complaints.
 
oddly enough minxnim, the examples you draw up happen to guys too! and xfer, keep on typing, cause I'm agreeing with everything you writin, so I don't have to.
 
i'm lost.
but anyway, i said like several times that it happens on both sides with both genders. and transgenders i guess too.