Bad songs / good money

do you guys Mix with the band present? or you do it alone and then you show you work to them?

Watch them whilst you're recording and see which one of them is the most sensible - then if they say they want to be around for the mixing, say you don't want lots of voices and suggest that guy.

Basically, if one of them keeps making suggestions whilst you're tracking, keep them well out of it (it'll almost certainly be the lead guitarist) - whereas if one of them asks questions about why you're doing something, they're probably the one to have around.

It might sound counter-intuitive, but personally if one of them was there I'd want it to be someone who's going to try and understand what I'm doing and steer towards the sound they want - not someone that's going to keep telling me what they want to hear without appreciating what it takes to get it.

Steve
 
ahaha I just imagine the scene, with the bassist saying "hummm a bit more... OK that's nice now !"

classic! hahaha

I personally think mixing should be done with no one present, just present them with rough mixes and let them give their opinions and then go back to locking yourself in and fixing the mix taking note of the band's opinions. The mix should sound how the band wants it to sound, but having them present DURING the mixing could be a pain in the ass, rather do a rough mix and show them, then repeat until they are satisfied
 
There's nothing more infuriating than when every time you switch an impulse response and there's that second or so where dry signal comes through... and the guitar player insists on saying "ew" EVERY FUCKING TIME.

Or you'll be messing with the high end of a bass track you split... and the bass player say "I think there should be more low end" :mad:
 
Well we did the first session and it wasn`t so bad but... my metronome became their enemy so I had to create a drum track via midi with Adictive to help them
 
I can deal with bands that take lots of takes, but bands that insist that they can play to click track, then can't, then insist its the clicks fault and then insist that they are tight enough to play without a click can fuck right off.

I've had to program drums for songs before, and do synth brass for a ska band. It wasn't their fault, its just one of those annoying things that had to be done to get results.

Also, Crosstalk I have to disagree with you about not editing. Your job is to make the band sound the best you can, not any other way. Not editing a take to make it sound good doesn't do anyone any favours, edit everything so it's tight and the whole mix will improve, don't cut corners on stuff like that because the musicians can't play properly, all you do is give off the impression that you can't spot mistakes or edit them (not saying you can or can't btw)

Joe