Badass Rap
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CiG
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Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
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I was looking all over for that post, btw. Saw it and was like "hey check that shit out" and forgot where it was.
That was awesome. Saved that video.
I watched this movie recently and it reminded me of all these 90s rap i remember hearing back in the day
shit wheres the rap round for the nonmetal mixtape game?
edit: I got more. These kids actually grew up around where i was raised for a bit.
I was looking all over for that post, btw. Saw it and was like "hey check that shit out" and forgot where it was.
That was awesome. Saved that video.
I watched this movie recently and it reminded me of all these 90s rap i remember hearing back in the day
shit wheres the rap round for the nonmetal mixtape game?
edit: I got more. These kids actually grew up around where i was raised for a bit.
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Funerary_Doom
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Sorry i have one more. My coworker showed this to and It's like evil genius because it gets stuck in your head. It's a little lame but it's funny.
"Starwars? Nope. Yoda? Yep."
"Slippin? Nope. Trippin? Yep."
"Starwars? Nope. Yoda? Yep."
"Slippin? Nope. Trippin? Yep."
Bloopy
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Rap objectively sucks 99.9% of the time, and takes very little skill to do. This is good though:
Satanstoenail
My Larpstyle determines my Derpstyle
Your opinion sucks shit but the track you posted is pretty good.
CiG
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He has a lot of really retarded opinions with really good opinions mixed through.
Sharpshooters are okay enough, nothing special. Company Flow annihilates this, so does dalek, Antipop Consortium, Kool Keith, DOOM, MF Grimm...
Objectively wrong.
Sharpshooters are okay enough, nothing special. Company Flow annihilates this, so does dalek, Antipop Consortium, Kool Keith, DOOM, MF Grimm...
Objectively wrong.
Internally Deformed
Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm
To be able to rap, you've just got to be able to talk like a black guy. That in itself doesn't make rap suck, as roaring like a cookie monster isn't particularly difficult to pull off either. My problem is that the focus on the lyrics/flow w/e mean the tracks are usually repetitive and undeveloped, not to mention derivatively reliant on samples. I'm sure that doesn't hold true in every case, but rap seems to have an unusually high shit to quality ratio.
The other thing I dislike in rap is that rap coolness = one's ability to brag about how cool one is, which is pretty much the opposite of actually being cool. That's probably more true of the mainstream, but nevertheless it's so pervasive that it puts me off exploring further.
The other thing I dislike in rap is that rap coolness = one's ability to brag about how cool one is, which is pretty much the opposite of actually being cool. That's probably more true of the mainstream, but nevertheless it's so pervasive that it puts me off exploring further.
Internally Deformed
Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm
Just started listening to Funcrusherplus and got to the lyric "the history of my hip-hop is too deep to be dissected". Will keep listening, but that seems to be rap's lyrical problem right there: professions of depth/badassery/past suffering/intellect substituted for actual demonstrations of depth/badassery/past suffering/intellect.
The equivalent of this in metal would be if bm bands instead of writing lyrics about evil subjects like the occult and demonic forces and national socialism spent half the song thinking up innovative ways to express how evil they are.
Will listen to this instead:
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CiG
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Jedi Mind Tricks in my opinion were one of the greatest, until after their third album which was itself not that great.
Vinnie was so damn young but lyrically monstrous.
Vinnie was so damn young but lyrically monstrous.
EternalMetal
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I have a friend in the music business who is really into rap and hip-hop (though works with jazz musicians), and being very open the exploring all kinds of music genres, decided to do some music swapping with me. I provided her with death and black metal playlists while she provided me with some rap/hip-hop (and also a pretty kickass jazz playlist). This came into effect after we were discussing that it was rather difficult to explore those genres without having to tackle the majority of the mediocre mainstream.
The conclusions that I drew about hip-hop/rap were very similar to what you are describing; it was all basically about ostentatiously presenting ones sense of coolness, style, or street views/values. It is a musical format that focuses on the flow of the vocal delivery within an established rhythm, and not to be racist, but doing so in the style of black ebonic city culture. It was very rare that I could get into specific songs in this style, even if some of the electronic beats on repeat were pretty cool or creative. So I realized that even in the underground it is a style of music that I just have a hard time connecting with and appreciating on the level of other music genres. Maybe im just too much of a country boy to appreciate the art and style of the urbanites, though I can respect the skill and creativity of the better artists in the genre. I think it may also be because I appreciate music much more for the music than for lyrical content (classical being one of my other genre favs besides metal).
And since im here, I might as well post a hip-hop song that I actually like.
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Internally Deformed
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CiG
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The fundamental flaw in your critique of hip hop is that it's America-centric. Likely because you don't actually know much about the genre, there are massive hip hop movements in countries where they don't even speak English and the country is majority white.
Internally Deformed
Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm
Yeah, and I bet in France being a good rapper just means "doing so in the style of black French ebonic city culture". I know for a fact being a successful rapper in London just means talking like your standard London black guy.
CiG
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So we're talking about success now, rather than talent?
To be a talented rapper, you need to be lyrically proficient, crafty and able to formulate complex words while still flowing with the beat.
Being successful =/= talented.
Internally Deformed
Farseer of the Paranormal Abysm
Success was a poor choice of words, what I meant was being able to sound approximately like every other rapper. So to be successful at rapping in a way that doesn't obviously suck.
As to the craftiness and complexity required within rap lyrics, see previous posts.
As to the craftiness and complexity required within rap lyrics, see previous posts.
CiG
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Internally Deformed
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CiG
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What do you mean exactly?
Saying that to make it as a rapper you merely have to sound approximately like every other rapper is too general, since not every rapper sounds the same. Subgenres exist as the most obvious point.
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