Anthrax
Kreator
Exodus
Testament
Overkill
Gotta revise this.
Anthrax
Exodus
Testament
Kreator
Sodom
Overkill
Nuclear Assault
Megadeth
Metal Church
Vio-Lence
Toxik
Heathen
Anthrax
Kreator
Exodus
Testament
Overkill
so where do we stand on venom?
i'd call their early stuff definitely thrash and not black metal
Sorry to disagree. Venom is the TRUE ORIGINAL black metal, along with Bathory, Mercyful Fate and Hellhammer/Celtic Frost they paved the way for what now is called black metal :Smug:
Or maybe early Bathory and Hellhammer/Celtic Frost are just thrash.
Oh THEY ARE as a matter of fact, but because of imagery, lyrics and attitude they were the forefathers (along with Venom) of black metal. Or at least what I really consider like black metal, everybody knows in this forum I don't like BM at all in its current form.
All true and good example of Death; back in the days I described all those bands the same as I describe them now, Venom being Black, Death being Death and Repulsion being Grind. For the record I prefer Carpathian Forest to DarkthroneI would have to agree with Wyvern on this one. If you take early examples of Death Metal like Seven Churches or Scream Bloody Gore the music _could_ be described as Extreme Thrash but since these albums paved the way for 90's Death Metal musically and lyrically they are instead regarded as DM classics (at least in my world hehe..)
It's the same with Repulsion's Horrified. It could be seen as fast thrash or it could be proto-grindcore.
I do agree that Venom is pretty far from second generation BM though and whenever some modern band try to pull off a cover it just sounds forced and.. well.. bad. Celtic Frost or Hellhammer, however, work very well. I mean, Darkthrone and Carpathian Forest have been ripping them off for years!
Oh THEY ARE as a matter of fact, but because of imagery, lyrics and attitude they were the forefathers (along with Venom) of black metal. Or at least what I really consider like black metal, everybody knows in this forum I don't like BM at all in its current form.