Review is up on the site.
http://www.royalcarnage.com/Reviews/generalzod/opeth/black_rev.htm
Zod popped his cherry.
http://www.royalcarnage.com/Reviews/generalzod/opeth/black_rev.htm
Zod popped his cherry.
Blackwater Park
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Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
Excellent work Greg. A more detailed post praising your work would be superflous. hehe.
Seriously, nice job - I'll have to check that album out sometime.
Seriously, nice job - I'll have to check that album out sometime.
SonOfNun
Bill Ward's Red Pants
Nice review of a great album. Some real standouts like "The Leper Affinity" and "Blackwater Park", but this album has never been my favorite Opeth album, Damnation being the only other to share that fate. The other five have all been my favorite at times, but trying to pick a favorite Opeth album or even rank them is about the most pointless activity ever as it's always changing. All of them are great but My Arms, Your Hearse has been my favorite lately.
IOfTheStorm
Gogol Bordello
Ok i dislike Opeth in general, but a comment not about the music itself:
"When AT THE GATES set the Metal world on its collective ear with Slaughter of the Soul, they spawned an entire generation of bands that followed their freshly blazed trail. So, where are all the OPETH clones? Why is it I dont read about this band or that band being heavily influenced by OPETH? Strangely, it reminds me of an old Elvis Presley joke:
Q: Why dont Elvis impersonators impersonate the young Elvis?
A: Because they cant.
The same seems to hold true of the mighty OPETH. Theres a reason that no one has followed in their footsteps because no one can."
You know there is always the possibility that no one WANTED to follow Opeth's footsteps or that Opeth are not THAT GOOD in order to have a spawn of band as followers. This is the proper thinking of a non-Opeth fan in general (not someone who hates Opeth like me, someone who just doesnt care about them), me thinks. There are other bands playing this kind of "really melodic 50% death metal with progressive 70s influences", who are not in the vein of Opeth.Also the influence that a band breeds to others is a credit, not the non-influence (and possibly the lack of interest by other metal bands about what Opeth play).
"When AT THE GATES set the Metal world on its collective ear with Slaughter of the Soul, they spawned an entire generation of bands that followed their freshly blazed trail. So, where are all the OPETH clones? Why is it I dont read about this band or that band being heavily influenced by OPETH? Strangely, it reminds me of an old Elvis Presley joke:
Q: Why dont Elvis impersonators impersonate the young Elvis?
A: Because they cant.
The same seems to hold true of the mighty OPETH. Theres a reason that no one has followed in their footsteps because no one can."
You know there is always the possibility that no one WANTED to follow Opeth's footsteps or that Opeth are not THAT GOOD in order to have a spawn of band as followers. This is the proper thinking of a non-Opeth fan in general (not someone who hates Opeth like me, someone who just doesnt care about them), me thinks. There are other bands playing this kind of "really melodic 50% death metal with progressive 70s influences", who are not in the vein of Opeth.Also the influence that a band breeds to others is a credit, not the non-influence (and possibly the lack of interest by other metal bands about what Opeth play).
IOfTheStorm
Gogol Bordello
"Not reading about Opeth clones or bands being heavily influences by Opeth" may just mean that Opeth are not that important, because if they were, they would have an impact. Thats the standard. All GREAT bands influenced others.
J.
Old Fart
NAD
What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
No.IOfTheStorm said:
The outro solo to The Leper Affinity is one of my all time favorites, and Bleak is one of my favorite songs ever done. Like all Opeth, Blackwater Park wears a bit toward the end, but it's still pretty cool. Dig the review, nicely done.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Don't make me laugh that hard when I'm drinking coffee.Dark One said:
You should. I think you'd really like these guys.Dark One said:Seriously, nice job - I'll have to check that album out sometime.
Zod
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Well, I suppose we disagree on how good Opeth are. That's cool. But I think you'd have to admit, they are quite popular. You might even say that they are extremely popular, given what it is they do. And given that popularity, I'm surprised that there aren't more bands borrowing from them. But hey, different strokes/different folks.IOfTheStorm said:
Zod
IOfTheStorm
Gogol Bordello
J.
Old Fart
Wells, you could say Novembre, Lilitu, and April Ethereal "borrow" from Opeth, and I'm sure there are more. Thing is, people like to think Opeth are this entirely original band, yet they are more or less a 70's prog band with metal riffs and death vocals. Hell, even the band will tell you that.
As for BWP, I still think the title track is a great, great song. It's too bad the rest of the album is mediocre dross. I mean c'mon, Dirge for November is simply dreadful.
As for BWP, I still think the title track is a great, great song. It's too bad the rest of the album is mediocre dross. I mean c'mon, Dirge for November is simply dreadful.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
I guess we'll agree to disagree. As J. pointed out, there are bands that borrow from them. My point was, I'm surprised there aren't more. And while I'd agree that Opeth isn't 100% original, they are one of those bands, that when you hear them, you know it's them. To my ear, they're one of the most distinctive sounding bands in Metal. And typically, when bands are both distinctive and successful, it lends itself to bands following in their footsteps.IOfTheStorm said:
Zod
NAD
What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
IOfTheStorm
Gogol Bordello
Do you? Are you sure its not a Morbid Angel one?One Inch Man said:
"cheesier version" of the morbid angel riff
NAD
What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
Haha, oh yeah! That one real obvious one in... Master's Apprentice I think, I always thought "man, that is just SHAMELESS Morbid Angel worship" and in an interview around that time Mikael fully admitted to ripping them off for that riff. :Spin:
J.
Old Fart
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Ayeka
Hell Bent For Leather!
I'll have to third thisJ. said:
I found it interesting reading, in that the things our man loves are near enough the exact same things I can't stand about it. The...errrm....errrrm...oh, fuck it, I can't remember what he said but I'm sure he liked what I considered to be just dragging on and boring. And the seamlessly interwoven death/prog/acoustic passages, just seemed to me like acoustic intro-death-mellow-death-mellow...
:Spam:
J.
Old Fart
Really, Erik? To be honest, I can't stand Still Life. Wait, let me rephrase: I find Still Life to be a boring album. It's not horrible like BWP, but it's just coma-inducing.
Orchid is their masterpiece, in my eyes.
Orchid is their masterpiece, in my eyes.
