Blackwinter, bad news (well for you maybe)

[Black Winter Day]

it was a "pillar" of salt, meaning she was standing rigid and not moving

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by Black Winter Day
haha, RIP50, i took plenty of Bible history courses back in the day, haha, even took a course at HS, haha. i think it is cool that you can express your newfound beliefs while disregarding the morons who trash it. . . never thought of you being a big Christian though. where does it say in the Bible that masturbation is wrong? pull me out a passage and i will let you go on THAT one. . . but nowhere in the Book have I found anything that says masturbation is a sin or is wrong. like i said, proove it with words from the text.


*****Ill find it soon. IT says IT IS BETTER TO SPILL YOUR SEED IN THE BELLY OF A WHORE THAN TO SPILL YOUR SEED ON THE GROUND. Hav eyou read about the long hair being wrong for men? I have.******

i, myself, have taken an OPPOSITE turn on my faith. ever since my experience here at governor's school, i have become an agnostic, whereas i used to be a christian. i guess you could call me a "semi-atheist". if you asked me if i believed in God, i would say "i don't know". i DO agree wih a lot of things that Jesus said, but i also agree with a lot of the practices of anton lavey and wiccanism. i guess you could say that at this point in my life i am "searching" for my beliefs. i question everything. i can follow nothing blindly. reading a bunch of ayn rand's books has also introduced me to my ego, my individualism i never fully capitalized on, and that only furthers my questioning of where i fit in the grand scheme of things. rand's philosophy of objectivism stresses atheism, but i don't totally agree with that. i think people should believe in something, even if it is nihilism, shamanism, etc. ("and i still believe in nothing. . ." hahaha). i'm glad you've found yours, man.


******It is cool. I dont care who bashes, if something makes you happy, go for it. The only thing i dont like about some belivers, is when they start getting pissed cause you have other outlooks.********

 

[dreaming neon darkspot]

So there are ways of explaining totally impossible things from the Bible as being fact?Or does it all depend on the Bible that one is reading from?

 

[Black Winter Day]

but is it a "sin"?

reminds me of an episode of the simpsons where reverend lovejoy is holding the bible up and says "You ever actually read this thing, marge? Technically, we're not even supposed to go to the bathroom."

hahahaha

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by dreaming neon darkspot
I suppose there's a lot of stuff that the Bible "leaves out"that the church feels the need to fill in-like all of that stuff about masturbation,homosexuality,lust,adultry,etc.What I've read of the Bible is mostly stories so far,no rules,no morals.I guess all of those commandments come in later w/Moses and that stuff,though.When my siblings and I first started going to Catholic school,they gave our parents(as they gave all parents)these little booklets about sexuality according to the Catholic church.I suppose that was stuff we would've learned about later.But I found that book and read thru it.It had chapters on puberty,drug use,reproduction,etc.And there were entire chapters on what was "wrong"-lust,sodomy,masterbation,abortion,premarital sex,drug use,etc.So it's a fine example of the church attempting to control every aspect of a person's life by keeping them in fear-
Homosexuality is a sin because it is an act that is unnateral and doesn't produce life,therefore it is damnable in the eyes of God"
which means"If you are gay,you will burn in hell."I honestly don't get stuff like that.If you mastubate you go to hell,if you even thikn about sex before you are married,you go to hell,etc.That's so fucked up.

Teh sex thing, its becouse in christianity, you aer supposed to love god above all else. Sex is sooooooo good, if you have it, Then you may love sex more, thats one reason.

Another thing is, that stuff can consume your life.

Its all in the bible, you just have to read it thuroly, and really try to undersatnd each thing you read. Cause everything you read in the bible has been translated from ancient writings, and they also had to write in code, cause if they were found out, many times they would have been killed.

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by dreaming neon darkspot
So there are ways of explaining totally impossible things from the Bible as being fact?Or does it all depend on the Bible that one is reading from?

Well, in some cases yes, it does depend on the bible your reading.
In other cases, you just hav eto admit that a woman actually being transformed into salt, its non sence. You must rememebr, they spoke different than us, as well as believe ing things like rain earthquakes etc, were forces of some GOD.

Turn to salt, is like my father in law saying his eyes were goose eggs. Meaning his eyes were WIDE open''

If you read Revelations, you will see where a book from the bibloe is ommited, and it was read by one man, it say he ATE THE BOOK. In other words, he read it and understood it, and stored it in his mind.

 

[Black Winter Day]

ledmag, ever studied wicca? some of that stuff is really interesting (even those those "rituals" seem pointless, but they must bee eerie when you are stoned, haha)

 

[dreaming neon darkspot]

I get what you're saying about how sex can be wrong in the "eyes of god"becasue you could love that more than you love god...kind of how w/the story about the tree of Knowledge or Good&Evil in the Garden of Eden...god forbade Adam and Eve to eat the fruit of that tree because then they'd be as smart as god(or whatever it was that the serpent told Eve).

 

[ledmag]

DNDARK>>>some things i cant get, so, yeah, i suppose the really hard stuff to get, just needds to be explained by one who is trined at desiffering things.

Lots of the explainations come from hebrew and bible historians. They study the shit out of the text, an dthen put 2 and 2 together.

Im not very good at translating in words a lot of this stuff...but i can desiffer some of it mentally if you know what i mean.

 

[Black Winter Day]

bible should be individual interpretation, not what the church tells you

 

[Captain Beard]

I love sex more than the invisible man.
And i'm smarter, too.
Because I say more than coded babblings and controversial statements.

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by Black Winter Day
ledmag, ever studied wicca? some of that stuff is really interesting (even those those "rituals" seem pointless, but they must bee eerie when you are stoned, haha)

Some, not much, i hav eyet to find a really good book on the subject.

I would love to though.

I like looking into religions, try to see why ppl go that path if you can get what im sayin.

 

[Captain Beard]

Hey maggies? you like S-A, don't you?

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by dreaming neon darkspot
I get what you're saying about how sex can be wrong in the "eyes of god"becasue you could love that more than you love god...kind of how w/the story about the tree of Knowledge or Good&Evil in the Garden of Eden...god forbade Adam and Eve to eat the fruit of that tree because then they'd be as smart as god(or whatever it was that the serpent told Eve).

Yes,

and i think that the reason some churches say that TV is wrong, other than the language etc..is the fact, that you may start getting into a show, an dthat show may just take u0p your church time. YOu know, the TV wasnt even around when the bible was written hahahahha


Teh gay stuff.......it says that EVEN THE BIRDS IN TEH SKY DO NOT MIX.

does that make it wrong? I dont know. I suppose in the eyes of a true christain, yes it would. Cause to them, if god even barley mentions something in a deflamitory way....its A SIN. Perhaps not a commandment breaker, but non the less, a sin. BUt you know, you can be forgiven for anything but serious blasphomy, and suicide..in the eyes o fthe church........so, hell, just fuck all the same sexx ppl you want, jerk your pud, kill, have sex, and then just ask for forgiveness......HAHAHAHHA

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by NoLordy Capone
Hey maggies? you like S-A, don't you?

If you mean SEX ALNIGHT, YES

If yo mean Sonata Arctica, yes, somewhat, i havent heard a lot, so i may not like them much and not even know it.
Have you seen the fun i ahev been having at that board? hahahha

 

[Black Winter Day]

i thought you meant solitude aeturnus

VERY tight doom metal with great vocals and lead playing. . . check em out!

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by Black Winter Day
bible should be individual interpretation, not what the church tells you

I agree 100 %

But i must say, i also think that one should give each persons outtake on it a chance, cause their out take, just may be better than yours. YOu know?

 

[Captain Beard]

Arctica, yes.
I've heard Aeturnus, BWD, I like them.

 

[ledmag]

Originally posted by Black Winter Day
but is it a "sin"?

reminds me of an episode of the simpsons where reverend lovejoy is holding the bible up and says "You ever actually read this thing, marge? Technically, we're not even supposed to go to the bathroom."

hahahaha

Well, if i were a christain, YES, it would be a sin in my eyes. BUt since im not, yeah, i whaked this morning. Oh yeah. DIdnt get any last night.....so i got it this morning after she left. hahahhaha


But really, yeah man, if i were into that stuff.....you know, living with god so to speak, it would be a sin.

IMO, if your going to live by the bible, if god even remotely mentions something in a good way, then your fine doing it. If he mentions something even barely being wrong, then yeah, i think it would be wrong.

 

[Black Winter Day]

that's "whacked" (pun intended)