Whatever, I don't think what you are saying is that far off from the truth, but that is appealing to some people including me occasionally.Fair enough... and atleast there is structure to the songs... I actually listened to Devourment for a while and liked them. Grind in general just annoys me though... hey lets all just randomly play everything and you scream and we'll pitchshift to where you sound like a jackass bullfrog (Negligent Collateral Collapse or Cock and Ball Torture come to mind) for 60 seconds.... put 30 of them on an album and someone will buy it. >_> That I dont like.