Brutal/Slam Death Metal

[Enemy242]

can anyone answer for me why Cryptopsy isn't considered brutal/slam death metal? None So Vile really seems like it should be to me at least.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

It's not slam because most of the riffs are written in tremolo and there are no slam breakdowns. They're marginally brutal in the same way Nile are. There's just something about them that separates them from usual brutal death.

 

[Noktorn]

They're brutal death metal to me.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

They have one album which is even remotely brutal death, and also their best overall, that being None So Vile. Otherwise, no, not brutal death really.

 

[cookiecutter]

They just aren't. It's hard to explain why but they just aren't

 

[anonymousnick2001]

Wait, what the fuck is Whisper Supremacy then? Tech-death? There's too much about it that makes it sound like a BDM album. Just in the riff construction and their sheer girth.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

WS is convoluted technical death metal crap.

 

[Noktorn]

I guess it depends on how you interpret 'brutal death metal', but I see Cryptopsy as a fairly definite precursor to the Internal Suffering style of chaotic brutal death (versus the more definitely heavy and deliberate style of Suffocation). And that's not even taking into account 'Whisper Supremacy' on, which I don't actually feel is death metal.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Precursor, maybe, but not necessarily part of the genre themselves.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

Whatevs. Again, I'm a huge fan of hypertechnical death. I'll take interesting exercise over 'atmosphere' any day.

Which is why I find slam death intriguing. As music to actually listen to, it's utter shit. As a curious new way to reinterpret the playing of metal, combining every known method of percussive technique (guitars, vocals, drums) to create the most wicked grooves ever, teh winnar. See?

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Well, I personally really like listening to it (who knew?), but it is definitely an acquired taste of course.

 

[Noktorn]

Precursor, maybe, but not necessarily part of the genre themselves.

Well do you see Suffocation as BDM?

 

[anonymousnick2001]

I do.

That whole style. Brodequin, Iniquity, Immolation, etc.

P.S. Listen to bands like Harakiri.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Immolation aren't really. Iniquity are deathgrind-sorta-stuff. Brodequin though, they're the shit.

 

[cookiecutter]

Well do you see Suffocation as BDM?

Suffocation sound way more like brutal death than Cryptopsy, and are certainly more consistent

 

[KMADD]

Have you listen to cryptopsy's latest? There pretty much a deathcore band now think a crappier beneath the massacre.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

It hurts me in my heart.

I console myself with the awesomeness of the remaidner of their catalogue...and I pretend the new album doesn't exist.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Aaaaand there we stop talking about Cryptopsy.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

So I'm eagerly anticipating the first Gothenslam hybrid melodic slam metal album.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

It's been done, a few times. Check out Decerebration.